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Just realized the UNEA never formally added a 'no NeoEOS' rule.

So, I've written one out.
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Rule no. #: there is no third faction. We don't care how uber-leet-cool your new group is, in-UNEiverse, it doesn't exist.

More accurately, YOU don't exist.

Suffice to say, you're a nameless prisoner floating in a sensory deprivation tank somewhere in the Coalition and pumped to the gills with all sorts of illegal chemicals.

Subrule I: on the other hand, there's lots of subfactions. Don't like the idea of not being your own faction? Tough luck.

Subrule II: the admins will be quite willing to laugh at you, mock you and then lock your "declaration of war" thread.

You will not be able to deny their allegations of "knowing" certain farm animals in the biblical sense.

Subrule III: don't complain. The admins don't have their own factions either. Subfactions, yes. Seperate factions, no.

Subrule IV: feel free to mention the UNEA and COP in your mocs. We need all the free advertising we can get.

Subrule V: the admin currently laughing at you doesn't care how important your mummy is, or what you could get your daddy to do.

On the other hand, if the best threat you have is telling your mum on us, we will be quite pleased with the opportunity to suggest a diaper change.

Wouldn't want a mess with all this excitement, would we?

Subrule VI: the admins can get away with murder, yes. The moderators can get away with armed highway robbery, yes.

Regardless, there's only two people on mocpages who can add a third faction.

Neither of them is currently open to petition regarding your new super cool group that'll be REAL important as soon as the hundreds of people you invited join.

Subrule VII: Sean Kenney is not your bestest best friend. Even if he was, he can't get us to add your precious theme to the UNEiverse.
Well, he could. Sorta.

But we'd just make you a little known faction in the distant past of some galaxy on the other side of the UNEiverse.

Remember: Awesome-O-Saur isn't a lawyer.
He's still very good with the doublethink and rule lawyering.

His UNEA opposite number, Areetsa, takes great delight in finding loopholes in contest rules and exploiting them for fun and giggles.

Any declaration you can weasel out of Mr Kenney WILL be bypassed in a myriad of ways the same day it comes out.
Don't even try.

Addendum: just because we don't have Steel Curtain doesn't mean we won't stomp on you because you didn't read/didn't care about the rules.
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Suggestions/additions?
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| January 17, 2010, 10:45 pm
Your IS technically another "Faction", even though it's in another universe, ya know?
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| January 17, 2010, 10:54 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q
Your IS technically another "Faction", even though it's in another universe, ya know?


Technically. As far as the UNEA is concerned, though, it's a particularly eccentric UNEA combat unit.







...and given the sanity of most UNEA commanders, that's saying something.
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| January 17, 2010, 10:59 pm
Woohoo! I just pulled off a coupla' armed Highway assualts with my friends who are all Mods! not that anyone knows...

-anonymous-
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| January 17, 2010, 11:09 pm
Quoting A Member Since December 7, 2007, Jake Parkinson
Woohoo! I just pulled off a coupla' armed Highway assualts with my friends who are all Mods! not that anyone knows...

-anonymous-


You know, there's also this little thing called 'Diplomatic Immunity' that means people in-

Uh oh.
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| January 17, 2010, 11:13 pm
Quoting Areetsa C

You know, there's also this little thing called 'Diplomatic Immunity' that means people in-

Uh oh.

Diplomatic Immunity, huh... sounds familiar...

you mean:

Diplomatic immunity is a form of legal immunity and a policy held between governments, which ensures that diplomats are given safe passage and are considered not susceptible to lawsuit or prosecution under the host country's laws (although they can be expelled)?
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| January 17, 2010, 11:16 pm
Quoting A Member Since December 7, 2007, Jake Parkinson
Diplomatic Immunity, huh... sounds familiar...

you mean:

Diplomatic immunity is a form of legal immunity and a policy held between governments, which ensures that diplomats are given safe passage and are considered not susceptible to lawsuit or prosecution under the host country's laws (although they can be expelled)?


Hmm. But shh, before anyone gets ideas.
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| January 17, 2010, 11:49 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Just realized the UNEA never formally added a 'no NeoEOS' rule.

So, I've written one out.
_____

Rule no. #: there is no third faction. We don't care how uber-leet-cool your new group is, in-UNEiverse, it doesn't exist.

More accurately, YOU don't exist.

Suffice to say, you're a nameless prisoner floating in a sensory deprivation tank somewhere in the Coalition and pumped to the gills with all sorts of illegal chemicals.

Subrule I: on the other hand, there's lots of subfactions. Don't like the idea of not being your own faction? Tough luck.

Subrule II: the admins will be quite willing to laugh at you, mock you and then lock your "declaration of war" thread.

You will not be able to deny their allegations of "knowing" certain farm animals in the biblical sense.

Subrule III: don't complain. The admins don't have their own factions either. Subfactions, yes. Seperate factions, no.

Subrule IV: feel free to mention the UNEA and COP in your mocs. We need all the free advertising we can get.

Subrule V: the admin currently laughing at you doesn't care how important your mummy is, or what you could get your daddy to do.

On the other hand, if the best threat you have is telling your mum on us, we will be quite pleased with the opportunity to suggest a diaper change.

Wouldn't want a mess with all this excitement, would we?

Subrule VI: the admins can get away with murder, yes. The moderators can get away with armed highway robbery, yes.

Regardless, there's only two people on mocpages who can add a third faction.

Neither of them is currently open to petition regarding your new super cool group that'll be REAL important as soon as the hundreds of people you invited join.

Subrule VII: Sean Kenney is not your bestest best friend. Even if he was, he can't get us to add your precious theme to the UNEiverse.
Well, he could. Sorta.

But we'd just make you a little known faction in the distant past of some galaxy on the other side of the UNEiverse.

Remember: Awesome-O-Saur isn't a lawyer.
He's still very good with the doublethink and rule lawyering.

His UNEA opposite number, Areetsa, takes great delight in finding loopholes in contest rules and exploiting them for fun and giggles.

Any declaration you can weasel out of Mr Kenney WILL be bypassed in a myriad of ways the same day it comes out.
Don't even try.

Addendum: just because we don't have Steel Curtain doesn't mean we won't stomp on you because you didn't read/didn't care about the rules.
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Suggestions/additions?


This is crazy! I would like to suggest a more friendly solution to the "problem" of smaller factions.

In reality if someone wants to pretend that their faction exists in this UNEverse you can't stop them, you can ignore them all you want but it is ultimately not up to you.

So why not simply accept these smaller factions, does it hurt you? Isn't this all just for fun anyway?

I hope this does not offend anyone, I just needed to speak my mind.
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| January 18, 2010, 12:46 am
Quoting J-MAN N

This is crazy! I would like to suggest a more friendly solution to the "problem" of smaller factions.

In reality if someone wants to pretend that their faction exists in this UNEverse you can't stop them, you can ignore them all you want but it is ultimately not up to you.

So why not simply accept these smaller factions, does it hurt you? Isn't this all just for fun anyway?

I hope this does not offend anyone, I just needed to speak my mind.


"Friendly" doesn't work.

The fact is that there's no room for a third faction.

They can SAY all they want that it's involved, but until both the COP and the UNEA agree they exist, they don't.

All this is just a fancy way of saying: 'if you want your group in the UNEiverse as a seperate faction, tough luck. Officially you don't exist, unofficially there's no way you can bribe your way in'.


If you recall the EOS I think you'd know why it needs to be made clear.


And yes, it is a friendly game.
If someone wants a part with a seperate organization they can set up a subfaction.

They can't, however, actually be a different side in the conflict.

That'd invalidate all Awe and Matt's work on the backstory.

You see, there's a story behind it all. And if someone adds a third faction, that faction must have always existed. Thereby shaking up everything.


Besides, most of these people are little kids. They've got no idea of sensibility and most of them can't even write properly.

Last thing we need is an official faction or subfaction that claims to have the sorts of things a kiddiefaction needs.
Like timetravel. And gravity control. And the ability to travel between galaxies.

All three of those things are strictly verboten. No way can we put them in without really messing things up.

Ergo, simplest way is not to let them have a third faction and to carefully control what the subfactions do.






And yes, I know there's a subfaction that claims to have time travel. I'm going on the assumption that if I close my eyes and don't think about them, they'll go away.

Time travel gives me headaches.
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| January 18, 2010, 12:55 am
Quoting Spaztastic the Great
I've noticed, we've all got counterparts.
Awe > You: in the 'science guy' category
Ian > Moffat: big leaders
Phaze > Blade-Hawk: egotistical nutcases
General Warren > Commander Flare: ex-klonie
O T Cactus > Finn C-Q: is mod but should be admin

Are you noticing a trend? I guess the CoP really do have us outmatched.


OR one of us is copying the other.
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| January 18, 2010, 12:56 am
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Quoting Areetsa C

OR one of us is copying the other.


For the record, I've be involved longer. I think. Actually, we probably joined the same day, considering how it was Fed's Last Resort that got us both into this. I recall your comment about Uranium and Copper.

Also, when it comes to back story, Matt and I are equivalent, though I boast I am better.
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| January 18, 2010, 1:04 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

For the record, I've be involved longer. I think. Actually, we probably joined the same day, considering how it was Fed's Last Resort that got us both into this. I recall your comment about Uranium and Copper.

Also, when it comes to back story, Matt and I are equivalent, though I boast I am better.


Referring to the groups as a whole, but eh.

Really? I thought you were involved since the beginning. Huh.

At the time, yeah. I should probably have used UNobtanium instead of uranium, though, in retrospect.
Are there any minerals for which the first three letters are U-N-E? Eh, doesn't matter.

Yeah, probably.
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| January 18, 2010, 1:11 am
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The following has been added for reply convenience.

Quoting Areetsa C

Point 1: That'd invalidate all Awe and Matt's work on the backstory.

Point 2: You see, there's a story behind it all. And if someone adds a third faction, that faction must have always existed. Thereby shaking up everything.


Point 3: Besides, most of these people are little kids. They've got no idea of sensibility and most of them can't even write properly.

Last thing we need is an official faction or subfaction that claims to have the sorts of things a kiddiefaction needs.
Like timetravel. And gravity control. And the ability to travel between galaxies.



@Point 1: Yes it would.

@Point 2: I have my own faction, but it's been Moffat and MacDonald approved. In fact, I have two factions. One is officially under my control, you can read about them in POAM 13 for a brief look. But they're long dead. As in, a LONG time gone. And not coming back.

My second faction is unofficially under my control. Some of you may remember the Venus Collective. Since Dali Zheng vanished into college, I've declared Awesome Law to BSG Season 2's Martial Law track, and made it my own. They're more of a defunct, decaying remnant secret police of the galaxy, though. However, just like the final days of the Western Roman Empire, they still have some power.

So basically, I have two factions, one is literally history, the other is not technically mine and only retains power through reputation and a few advanced technologies. If the COP wanted, the VC would be gone.

@Point 3: Travel between galaxies is possible, but it'd require more or less ~1000 years of travel. And that's more than a multigenerational FTL ship. That's a multi-cultural nation ship. A thousand years on one vessel, you'd have as much history as 1000 years as a part of Earth. Unless everyone was in stasis, but something is bound to break over that time.

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| January 18, 2010, 1:12 am
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Quoting Areetsa C

Referring to the groups as a whole, but eh.

Really? I thought you were involved since the beginning. Huh.

At the time, yeah. I should probably have used UNobtanium instead of uranium, though, in retrospect.
Are there any minerals for which the first three letters are U-N-E? Eh, doesn't matter.

Yeah, probably.


EL OH ELZ REFFERENCE TO SOMETHING NOW SEMI-FAMOUS FOR BEING IN FAMOUS MOVIE EL OH ELZ

Unununium, unundodecium, ununhexium, ununseptium, ununoctium, etc... All the number 110+ elements that exist for about 1/1000th of a second and aren't officially named yet.
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| January 18, 2010, 1:14 am
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Quoting Areetsa C

Remember: Awesome-O-Saur isn't a lawyer.
He's still very good with the doublethink and rule lawyering.



I may not be a lawyer, but I have minimal experience as one. I can get about a dozen people to testify to this. And I can impeach any one who disagrees.

American legal system, for the win!



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| January 18, 2010, 1:16 am
Quoting Spaztastic the Great
I meant being mirrors. You, Areetsa, and Bill Nye are all science guys. Also, see if you can tell me about anybody else who places special effects into their creations, I wanna see.


Moffat does it regularly, just about every mocomic maker in history does it, Dan Jassim, on occasion, Dennis Price, Awe, Sickerspammers, in a way, Kelso, I think, maybe Phipson. They're all who come to mind right now.






...You're planning something, aren't you.
Comparing styles, mixing and matching...

Well, if you went around telling people about your secret project it won't be secret.
Nevermind.
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| January 18, 2010, 1:20 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
@Point 2: I have my own faction, but it's been Moffat and MacDonald approved. In fact, I have two factions. One is officially under my control, you can read about them in POAM 13 for a brief look. But they're long dead. As in, a LONG time gone. And not coming back.

My second faction is unofficially under my control. Some of you may remember the Venus Collective. Since Dali Zheng vanished into college, I've declared Awesome Law to BSG Season 2's Martial Law track, and made it my own. They're more of a defunct, decaying remnant secret police of the galaxy, though. However, just like the final days of the Western Roman Empire, they still have some power.


Subfactions, in a way. The not-so-Secret Police who only really have any effect on robots in comics, and a backstory faction.

Like the UNE's USSR, or United States Of America, or People's Republic Of China.
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| January 18, 2010, 1:26 am
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Quoting Areetsa C

Subfactions, in a way. The not-so-Secret Police who only really have any effect on robots in comics, and a backstory faction.

Like the UNE's USSR, or United States Of America, or People's Republic Of China.


You haven't heard the last of the VC yet... And since the USSR was gone long before the UNE, one would expect the USA and China to duel it out before Canada dooms the world by going into space and finding the COP. And though the backstory faction is history, it still is there. Prequel power!
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| January 18, 2010, 1:29 am
Quoting Areetsa C

"Friendly" doesn't work.

The fact is that there's no room for a third faction.

They can SAY all they want that it's involved, but until both the COP and the UNEA agree they exist, they don't.

All this is just a fancy way of saying: 'if you want your group in the UNEiverse as a seperate faction, tough luck. Officially you don't exist, unofficially there's no way you can bribe your way in'.


If you recall the EOS I think you'd know why it needs to be made clear.


And yes, it is a friendly game.
If someone wants a part with a seperate organization they can set up a subfaction.

They can't, however, actually be a different side in the conflict.

That'd invalidate all Awe and Matt's work on the backstory.

You see, there's a story behind it all. And if someone adds a third faction, that faction must have always existed. Thereby shaking up everything.


Besides, most of these people are little kids. They've got no idea of sensibility and most of them can't even write properly.

Last thing we need is an official faction or subfaction that claims to have the sorts of things a kiddiefaction needs.
Like timetravel. And gravity control. And the ability to travel between galaxies.

All three of those things are strictly verboten. No way can we put them in without really messing things up.

Ergo, simplest way is not to let them have a third faction and to carefully control what the subfactions do.






And yes, I know there's a subfaction that claims to have time travel. I'm going on the assumption that if I close my eyes and don't think about them, they'll go away.

Time travel gives me headaches.

Oh, I misunderstood I thought that you meant that people couldn't build other factions like the U.T.M. or G.E.M., but you mean a separate side that is against both factions, like the E.O.S.. Okay I understand now, sorry for calling you crazy. =]
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| January 18, 2010, 1:48 am
Quoting J-MAN N
Oh, I misunderstood I thought that you meant that people couldn't build other factions like the U.T.M. or G.E.M., but you mean a separate side that is against both factions, like the E.O.S.. Okay I understand now, sorry for calling you crazy. =]


Of course.

You know, I don't actually mind being considered crazy.
I think a bit of insanity is good for everyone.


Of course, some of us have double doses.
I'd do the whole coughing and naming thing here, but I'm not sick.

Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

You haven't heard the last of the VC yet... And since the USSR was gone long before the UNE, one would expect the USA and China to duel it out before Canada dooms the world by going into space and finding the COP. And though the backstory faction is history, it still is there. Prequel power!


Ah, but it's not here, now, actively playing a part in the public side of things.

It might be the focus of your and your friends comic series, but that's between you and your two buddies: the sort of people who garble backstory just by being there have no part in it.

Well, until Precipice becomes more popular.
Then there'll be tons of people wanting to make stuff for the long-gone Automation Confederation.
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| January 18, 2010, 1:53 am
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Quoting Areetsa C


It might be the focus of your and your friends comic series, but that's between you and your two buddies: the sort of people who garble backstory just by being there have no part in it.

Well, until Precipice becomes more popular.
Then there'll be tons of people wanting to make stuff for the long-gone Automation Confederation.


True. But through my machinations, I've managed to create a theme style that only allowed certain people to build it right. Sadly, this certain person is me, and me alone.

And the correct name is not the Automaton Confederation, it's the... Well, they've never really had a name. I guess I should think of one.
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| January 18, 2010, 2:07 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

True. But through my machinations, I've managed to create a theme style that only allowed certain people to build it right. Sadly, this certain person is me, and me alone.

And the correct name is not the Automaton Confederation, it's the... Well, they've never really had a name. I guess I should think of one.


R.A.M.M. style, huh?


Well, 'nameless band of long-dead robots' doesn't rhyme, does it?
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| January 18, 2010, 2:14 am
Quoting Spaztastic the Great
I uh... kinda meant this kind of special effects.


Yeah, comic makers. You'd have to look around.

Try searching google for 'GIMP muzzle flash effects'.
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| January 18, 2010, 2:15 am
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Quoting Areetsa C

R.A.M.M. style, huh?


Well, 'nameless band of long-dead robots' doesn't rhyme, does it?


Nope, not at all. The nameless band of long-dead robots was a theocracy of all things, so maybe something along those lines...

We're rather off-topic here. I'm glad you guys don't have a ferrous blind.
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| January 18, 2010, 2:18 am
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Quoting Spaztastic the Great
XD


inorite?//??/?
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| January 18, 2010, 2:32 am
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Quoting Spaztastic the Great
Stop that.


Only if you use the reply button.
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| January 18, 2010, 2:34 am
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Quoting Spaztastic the Great


Wut.


Cool story, bro.
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| January 18, 2010, 2:51 am
Quoting Areetsa C

"Friendly" doesn't work.

The fact is that there's no room for a third faction.

They can SAY all they want that it's involved, but until both the COP and the UNEA agree they exist, they don't.

All this is just a fancy way of saying: 'if you want your group in the UNEiverse as a seperate faction, tough luck. Officially you don't exist, unofficially there's no way you can bribe your way in'.


If you recall the EOS I think you'd know why it needs to be made clear.


And yes, it is a friendly game.
If someone wants a part with a seperate organization they can set up a subfaction.

They can't, however, actually be a different side in the conflict.

That'd invalidate all Awe and Matt's work on the backstory.

You see, there's a story behind it all. And if someone adds a third faction, that faction must have always existed. Thereby shaking up everything.


Besides, most of these people are little kids. They've got no idea of sensibility and most of them can't even write properly.

Last thing we need is an official faction or subfaction that claims to have the sorts of things a kiddiefaction needs.
Like timetravel. And gravity control. And the ability to travel between galaxies.

All three of those things are strictly verboten. No way can we put them in without really messing things up.

Ergo, simplest way is not to let them have a third faction and to carefully control what the subfactions do.






And yes, I know there's a subfaction that claims to have time travel. I'm going on the assumption that if I close my eyes and don't think about them, they'll go away.

Time travel gives me headaches.

....Just because my subfaction has primitive versions of time-travel.... now we can fix problems like, say, some guy who is a terrorist wants to stop Hitler from dying. he finds a way to go back and attempt that. we kill him before he succeeds. thats how we work.

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| January 18, 2010, 12:23 pm
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Quoting A Member Since December 7, 2007, Jake Parkinson
....Just because my subfaction has primitive versions of time-travel.... now we can fix problems like, say, some guy who is a terrorist wants to stop Hitler from dying. he finds a way to go back and attempt that. we kill him before he succeeds. thats how we work.


If the terrorist suceedes and stops Hitler from dying (which woudln't do ANYTHING, by the time he was ready to kill himself, Nazi Germany was in it's final days), then he will never need to go back in time in the future because he saves Hitler. That creates a time paradox.

Paradoxes are bad. And if fails to save Hitler, that means things go on as normal, thus never requiring you to go back in the first place.


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| January 18, 2010, 1:31 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

If the terrorist suceedes and stops Hitler from dying (which woudln't do ANYTHING, by the time he was ready to kill himself, Nazi Germany was in it's final days), then he will never need to go back in time in the future because he saves Hitler. That creates a time paradox.

Paradoxes are bad. And if fails to save Hitler, that means things go on as normal, thus never requiring you to go back in the first place.


..... that was just an example, you know.... okay then heres another one: A C.O.P. commando assassin dude somehow gets into this and attempts to kill John before he becomes president.
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| January 18, 2010, 2:23 pm
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Quoting A Member Since December 7, 2007, Jake Parkinson
..... that was just an example, you know.... okay then heres another one: A C.O.P. commando assassin dude somehow gets into this and attempts to kill John before he becomes president.


That still doesn't work. If the COP Commando goes back in time and kills Moffat, then years later in the future, there will be no need to kill Moffat, because he's dead. Therefore they can't send anyone back, because, well, Moffat died years ago.

Time isn't linear, that's only how we perceive it. Things that happen in the past effect us, and the things that happen now effect the future, and vice versa. I can't go back in time to stop JFK from being killed, because if I do that, in 2010, there will be no need to go back in time, because I saved him in 1963 or whatever.

It's a paradox, no matter how you put it. Areetsa, back me up here, when you get on.
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| January 18, 2010, 2:44 pm
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Quoting Spaztastic the Great
I've noticed, we've all got counterparts.
Awe > You: in the 'science guy' category
Ian > Moffat: big leaders
Phaze > Blade-Hawk: egotistical nutcases
General Warren > Commander Flare: ex-klonie
O T Cactus > Finn C-Q: is mod but should be admin

Are you noticing a trend? I guess the CoP really do have us outmatched.

You forgot Gus and I. What? Do you think the second-in-command guys are meaningless?

...or maybe you just forgot.....
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| January 18, 2010, 3:02 pm
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Quoting Matt The Backward One
You forgot Gus and I. What? Do you think the second-in-command guys are meaningless?

...or maybe you just forgot.....


Maybe it's because Gus and you seem to never be active any more.

Speaking of which, any more updates for the UNE back story coming?
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| January 18, 2010, 3:54 pm
Quoting Spaztastic the Great
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

That still doesn't work. If the COP Commando goes back in time and kills Moffat, then years later in the future, there will be no need to kill Moffat, because he's dead. Therefore they can't send anyone back, because, well, Moffat died years ago.

If that were to happen, they would still have gone back in time, but when they came back there would be a bunch of confused people standing around saying "why did you hop out of a giant blinking oven?"

Aw, crud. I'm starting to see everyone's logic here.... looks like I better do some editing to my group... But I'm keeping my weaponry weather you like it or not!
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| January 18, 2010, 4:10 pm
Quoting A Member Since December 7, 2007, Jake Parkinson
Aw, crud. I'm starting to see everyone's logic here.... looks like I better do some editing to my group... But I'm keeping my weaponry weather you like it or not!

OK, finished! new name: Galactic Formation of Unity.
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| January 18, 2010, 4:29 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

That still doesn't work. If the COP Commando goes back in time and kills Moffat, then years later in the future, there will be no need to kill Moffat, because he's dead. Therefore they can't send anyone back, because, well, Moffat died years ago.

Time isn't linear, that's only how we perceive it. Things that happen in the past effect us, and the things that happen now effect the future, and vice versa. I can't go back in time to stop JFK from being killed, because if I do that, in 2010, there will be no need to go back in time, because I saved him in 1963 or whatever.

It's a paradox, no matter how you put it. Areetsa, back me up here, when you get on.


I was planning to make a mocomic thing about how the UNEiverse prevents paradoxes from happening, once.

Still will, eventually.


Basically, the idea is: if you go back and shoot El Presidente, he'll fall over with a hole in his gut, then the hole will close up again and he'll be fine.

OR, you'll pull the trigger and the gun'll blow up in your hand, or you'll have a magazine full of duds, or anything.

Basically, you try and change the past, the universe won't let you.
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| January 18, 2010, 5:43 pm
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Quoting Spaztastic the Great
Rank-wise, you're counterparts. But style-wise, not so much. I think you're more like... ah. Hm. I'm going to do more research.

Why don't you say that I'm a lot like me? Aren't I unique? You even can ask my 300 clones.
Hold up...
Make that 299. One was just stabbed by Varion...
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| January 19, 2010, 8:51 pm
wait, are illegal chemicals kinda like drugs today?
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| January 19, 2010, 8:56 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Commander Hawx
wait, are illegal chemicals kinda like drugs today?

Uh... I guess? Why?
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| January 19, 2010, 8:57 pm
Quoting Matt The Backward One
Why don't you say that I'm a lot like me? Aren't I unique? You even can ask my 300 clones.
Hold up...
Make that 299. One was just stabbed by Varion...

eh be glade you don't have a counter part if you did that would mean competition.
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| January 19, 2010, 8:59 pm
 Group admin 
Yeah, you have no one to one-up you. Or three-up, in my case.
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| January 19, 2010, 9:00 pm
Quoting John Moffatt
Yeah, you have no one to one-up you. Or three-up, in my case.

Three-up? no, only two-up in reality. you are talking about Ian right?
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| January 19, 2010, 9:03 pm
Quoting A Member Since December 7, 2007, Jake Parkinson
Three-up? no, only two-up in reality. you are talking about Ian right?

Have you seen Ian's creations, he can three up anyone he wants
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| January 19, 2010, 9:04 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting John Moffatt
Yeah, you have no one to one-up you. Or three-up, in my case.

He's alive! Quick! Hide the rebellion plans!

Er... Mr. Moffat. We were just discussing the..er.. importance of cupcakes.
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| January 19, 2010, 9:04 pm
 Group admin 
Of course you were. Chef! I want a hearty patch of cyanide on that next batch of pastries!
Did I mention I'm going on a diet?
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| January 19, 2010, 9:06 pm
Quoting Matt The Backward One
He's alive! Quick! Hide the rebellion plans!

Er... Mr. Moffat. We were just discussing the..er.. importance of cupcakes.

You planning a revolt?! I'm not siding with you.
Instead I'll surround myself with bodyguards, wait for your assassin and kill him.
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| January 19, 2010, 9:08 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting A Member Since December 7, 2007, Jake Parkinson
I'll surround myself with bodyguards, wait for your assassin and kill him.

Good luck trying to kill Areetsa!

..er... I guess I just blew the whole plan up, didn't I?
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| January 19, 2010, 9:09 pm
Quoting A Member Since December 7, 2007, Jake Parkinson
You planning a revolt?! I'm not siding with you.
Instead I'll surround myself with bodyguards, wait for your assassin and kill him.

who needs assassins when you have nukes?
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| January 19, 2010, 9:10 pm
Quoting Matt The Backward One
Good luck trying to kill Areetsa!

..er... I guess I just blew the whole plan up, didn't I?

Areetsa wouldn't dare kill me... or even attempt. besides, I already have a cont-- oh, forget that last part.
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| January 19, 2010, 9:13 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Spaztastic the Great
In other words, both of your creations tend to be "small, undetailed, but cool nonetheless."

Strange, how things mirror themselves.
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| January 19, 2010, 9:15 pm
Quoting Spaztastic the Great
Careful how you pronounce that word.

Areetsa signed a contract to kill Matt if he starts to plan a revolt... Oh, crud.
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| January 19, 2010, 9:16 pm
Quoting Spaztastic the Great
... Themselves? I don't get- *GASP*!

Could it be? Matt the Backward One is ...

(dramatic pause)

Gus Indo!

...

XD

Double agent! that explains why Gus isn't on anymore....
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| January 19, 2010, 9:19 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting A Member Since December 7, 2007, Jake Parkinson

Quoting Spaztastic the Great

Yep! We're the same person! Thats exactly why I'm facing myself in this MOC off:http://www.mocpages.com/group.php/8238

XD
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| January 19, 2010, 9:21 pm
Quoting Matt The Backward One
Quoting Spaztastic the Great

Yep! We're the same person! Thats exactly why I'm facing myself in this MOC off:http://www.mocpages.com/group.php/8238

XD

QUICK! if you go to this page turn up the volume!!11!!1!2!!!
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| January 19, 2010, 9:24 pm
Wait... then shouldn't your Gus account be an admin here? and shouldn't your Matt account be a mod in the C.O.P.? or is this all a conspiracy?
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| January 19, 2010, 9:24 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting A Member Since December 7, 2007, Jake Parkinson
Or is this all a conspiracy?

I'll let you figure that out. :P
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| January 19, 2010, 9:26 pm
Quoting Matt The Backward One
I'll let you figure that out. :P

..... OR I'll pay Matt Shack to kill you.
Matt vs. Matt.... sounds interesting.
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| January 19, 2010, 9:28 pm
Quoting John Dawn
Yep! We're the same person! Thats exactly why I'm facing myself in this MOC off:http://www.mocpages.com/group.php/8238

XD

QUICK! if you go to this page turn up the volume!!11!!1!2!!!

And no one notices the music hmm...
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| January 19, 2010, 10:00 pm
I noticed.....
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| January 19, 2010, 10:02 pm
Quoting Areetsa C

Technically. As far as the UNEA is concerned, though, it's a particularly eccentric UNEA combat unit.







...and given the sanity of most UNEA commanders, that's saying something.


What do you mean, "sanity"?
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| January 19, 2010, 10:11 pm
Quoting Spaztastic the Great
I've noticed, we've all got counterparts.
Awe > You: in the 'science guy' category
Ian > Moffat: big leaders
Phaze > Blade-Hawk: egotistical nutcases
General Warren > Commander Flare: ex-klonie
O T Cactus > Finn C-Q: is mod but should be admin

Are you noticing a trend? I guess the CoP really do have us outmatched.


Hey, I am noticed! I wanna be an admin, but John wants C.O.P. and U.N.E. to be equile i sorts, glad you think I can be one though! So where would you be, in this?
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| January 19, 2010, 10:15 pm
Quoting A Member Since December 7, 2007, Jake Parkinson
I noticed.....

Thank >insert deity here< someone else can hear it my efforts are not in vain!
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| January 19, 2010, 10:18 pm
Quoting Areetsa C

And the ability to travel between galaxies.


And yes, I know there's a subfaction that claims to have time travel. I'm going on the assumption that if I close my eyes and don't think about them, they'll go away.

Time travel gives me headaches.


Cough, cough**
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| January 19, 2010, 10:19 pm
Quoting John Dawn
Thank >insert deity here< someone else can hear it my efforts are not in vain!

Maybe because I installed the plugin, and used google chrome.
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| January 19, 2010, 10:19 pm
Quoting Matt The Backward One
Good luck trying to kill Areetsa!

..er... I guess I just blew the whole plan up, didn't I?


Areetsa doesn't kill people.
He just blows things up.

The injuries are a happy side effect.




After all, as far as skillsets go, "hurting people" is less important than "breaking things".
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| January 19, 2010, 10:20 pm
Quoting Areetsa C

OR one of us is copying the other.


I am going merrally along, pprobably O T C as well. But, are you implying yourself?
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| January 19, 2010, 10:20 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q

Cough, cough**

we don't have time travel anymore.....
we are the Galactic Formation of Unity!
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| January 19, 2010, 10:21 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

For the record, I've be involved longer. I think. Actually, we probably joined the same day, considering how it was Fed's Last Resort that got us both into this. I recall your comment about Uranium and Copper.

Also, when it comes to back story, Matt and I are equivalent, though I boast I am better.


I think your half good Areetsa personallity, and Matt more you.
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| January 19, 2010, 10:22 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q

I am going merrally along, pprobably O T C as well. But, are you implying yourself?


Groups, actually. That both groups have the same number of admins who do the same things; plot, administration, shouting at stupid people.
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| January 19, 2010, 10:24 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q

I think you're half the 'good' Areetsa type personality, half the Matt personality type..


Clarified.
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| January 19, 2010, 10:25 pm
Quoting Areetsa C

Of course.

You know, I don't actually mind being considered crazy.
I think a bit of insanity is good for everyone.
Good.

Quoting Mr. Happy
Well, until Precipice becomes more popular.
Then there'll be tons of people wanting to make stuff for the long-gone Automation Confederation.


VC?
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| January 19, 2010, 10:29 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Quoting Spaztastic the Great
I uh... kinda meant this kind of special effects.


Yeah, comic makers. You'd have to look around.

Try searching google for 'GIMP muzzle flash effects'.


WHO DUNNIT?!
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| January 19, 2010, 10:30 pm
Quoting Spaztastic the Great
Story? Bro?

...

Cool?

None of those describe me.

Quoting Spaztastic the Great
Story? Bro?

...

Cool?

None of those describe me.

Quoting Spaztastic the Great
Story? Bro?

...

Cool?

None of those describe me.

Quoting Spaztastic the Great
Story? Bro?

...

Cool?

None of those describe me.

Quoting Spaztastic the Great
Story? Bro?

...

Cool?

None of those describe me.

Quoting Spaztastic the Great
Story? Bro?

...

Cool?

None of those describe me.

Quoting Spaztastic the Great
Story? Bro?

...

Cool?

None of those describe me.


LOL wut?
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| January 19, 2010, 10:32 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Areetsa C


Time travel gives me headaches.

You and Captain Janeway.

However, there are some fully-matured (mom, dad, look the other way) AFOLs that want a crack at this game too. I'm an engineering student at UCCS, so I deal with concrete sciences everyday. So a sensible AFOL would not go off on impossible flights of fancy like I have observed others try to do.

As for the backstory, hey, none can be perfect...
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| January 19, 2010, 10:33 pm
Quoting Matt The Backward One
Why don't you say that I'm a lot like me? Aren't I unique? You even can ask my 300 clones.
Hold up...
Make that 299. One was just stabbed by Varion...


Can I haz one? Or 100?
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| January 19, 2010, 10:33 pm
Quoting A Member Since December 7, 2007, Jake Parkinson
..... OR I'll pay Matt Shack to kill you.
Matt vs. Matt.... sounds interesting.


I have always been confuzzled... I should be a Mod in C.O.P.
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| January 19, 2010, 10:34 pm
Quoting Spaztastic the Great
I believe my mirror would be BK as he enjoys placing special effects in his creations. I also believe him to be my superior, unless those are cut-n-paste muzzle flashes.

Would you call OTC my supierior?
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| January 19, 2010, 10:44 pm
Quoting Areetsa C

Clarified.

I am never too clear, eh?
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| January 19, 2010, 10:47 pm
Quoting A Member Since December 7, 2007, Jake Parkinson
we don't have time travel anymore.....
we are the Galactic Formation of Unity!

HUZZA!
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| January 19, 2010, 10:49 pm
Quoting John Dawn
Have you seen Ian's creations, he can three up anyone he wants

Perhaps, I think too highly of John, but I'd take a Roadrunner over a Raptor any day. The raptor reminds me of the episode three clone scout walker lego set.....
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| January 20, 2010, 8:39 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting A Member Since December 7, 2007, Jake Parkinson
Perhaps, I think too highly of John, but I'd take a Roadrunner over a Raptor any day. The raptor reminds me of the episode three clone scout walker lego set.....


Yea, that's Ian's early-ish stuff. I'm sure if he did a take-two it'd be much better, and more COP.
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| January 20, 2010, 8:43 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Finn C-Q

What do you mean, "sanity"?


Sanity is for the weak.
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| January 20, 2010, 8:50 pm
And for the indirectly insane.
Score one for the asylum detainees!
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| January 22, 2010, 8:21 am
Quoting Spaztastic the Diabolical
Yes. But you've got a huge expectation to live up to. You're both excellent builders, but I absolutely HAVE to pass judgment.


Wha?
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| January 22, 2010, 5:19 pm
I have no parallel user in the C.O.P.! I refuse to! I am unique! Mwahahahhahahha!
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| January 22, 2010, 5:36 pm
Quoting A Member Since December 7, 2007, Jake Parkinson
I have no parallel user in the C.O.P.! I refuse to! I am unique! Mwahahahhahahha!


Don't forget, if you're unique, you can't be promoted because you can't be replaced.

Quoting Spaztastic the Diabolical
Wrong. You want to kill the people without destroying the structure/vehicle/highly valuable scientific doohickey. The west Europeans had tactics down right. Starve their people, take the castle when their dead. If that can't be achieved, punch a hole in their wall and send shock troops to pour in through the gap. If that can't be achieved, then chuck a cow in there and hope for the best.


Never said WHICH things I consider most important to break, did I?

Fact is, the europeans never really figured out rule number one: pillage, THEN burn.
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| January 22, 2010, 6:23 pm
Quoting Areetsa C

Don't forget, if you're unique, you can't be promoted because you can't be replaced.


I'm already promoted, further promotion is very VERY VERY unlikely.
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| January 22, 2010, 6:28 pm
Well it's a useful life lesson, anyway.
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| January 22, 2010, 6:37 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Yea, that's Ian's early-ish stuff. I'm sure if he did a take-two it'd be much better, and more COP.

Think they were around the same time. The Roadrunner's actually pretty old.
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| January 23, 2010, 1:04 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Spaztastic the Diabolical
Master of Epicness.


Oh...

Member Since December 7th, 2007, you just may have been burned.
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| January 23, 2010, 1:42 am
Quoting Spaztastic the Great
Phaze > Blade-Hawk: egotistical nutcases...

Thank you very much, I always wanted to be a nutcase.
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| January 23, 2010, 8:58 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Oh...

Member Since December 7th, 2007, you just may have been burned.

It's STILL my favorite!
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| January 23, 2010, 12:37 pm
hey ppl, all this reminds me, i wanna know more about our history/connections with the UTM, GEM, and GAMAA.
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| January 23, 2010, 6:32 pm
Quoting Delta Force guy#22
hey ppl, all this reminds me, i wanna know more about our history/connections with the UTM, GEM, and GAMAA.

Don't you DARE forget the G.F.U.! heheheh...
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| January 23, 2010, 6:53 pm
okay. them too, and i would ban you right now if i wanted to bring the ban the user above you here, but, sadly, i dont, so you got lucky.
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| January 23, 2010, 8:08 pm
Quoting Delta Force guy#22
okay. them too, and i would ban you right now if i wanted to bring the ban the user above you here, but, sadly, i dont, so you got lucky.

huh? REALLY ban me?
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| January 23, 2010, 8:39 pm
yu no wut i meant.
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| January 23, 2010, 9:04 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Delta Force guy#22
yu no wut i meant.


So instead of typing "you", you type "yu", and instead of typing "what" you type "wut". I'm confused at such a dodging of minuscule time consumption, typing wise.
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| January 23, 2010, 10:08 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Spaztastic the Diabolical
lol-WUT!


*Does the growl/howl/roar of the Watcher in the Water (whatever that monster's name is), from LOTR: Fellowship of the Ring*
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| January 23, 2010, 10:59 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

So instead of typing "you", you type "yu", and instead of typing "what" you type "wut". I'm confused at such a dodging of minuscule time consumption, typing wise.


you forgot i said no instead of know, and so instead you said minuscule instead of a less irritating word. (ill post this in backfired insults)

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| January 24, 2010, 10:18 am
and my question hasnt been answered (also UNH, DA, and EOTO if i didnt say)
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| January 24, 2010, 10:19 am
Quoting Spaztastic the Great
Ultramarine Skiver < Sammy Harris

/C.O.P.videogamepower.
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| January 24, 2010, 11:01 am
I was too lazy to read the whole topic.






Yippee.
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| January 24, 2010, 8:41 pm
I hereby annex myself from the treaty of fortune: I WILL NEVER AGAIN EAT FORTUNE COOKIES!!! (i, stupidly, snuck in and wrote my name on it.) the new food subfaction (food factions are like UNE-COP, but with chefs. UNE chefs have +1000 points because the COP just HAD to come up with COPcakes. Stupid COPcake came as a bludgeon and nearly killed me. i had amnesia for 3 years.) will now never again make fortune cookies, but will make cupcake fortunes. that is all. just remember it WILL say on the wrapper or box that is is a Fortune Cupcake. I have patent #183637828-73647826287-777 on the Fortune Cupcake, so no COP Copycat will steal my idea. so HAHAHAHHAHA. this was a message brought to you by: NEOSSTRUCK (new emperors of steak supposed to rule under COP kitchens; NEOS pun intended. this is the only place where the NEOS, in that order of capitol letters, shall be found except in mockery and What Monster Under The Bed jokes.) Oh, and my little research group designed a timetravel device, but it only goes 1 second into the past to be EXACTLY where it was. it melds into it. eventually it gets so dense that it sinks into the planets core. the military tried to force me to turn it over. We said: it cant be moved, let alone rolled! sheesh! (end joke and commence ROFLYAO (your @*$ off. sorry for the language.) So we decided to just put it in a bottomless pit. that was the end of our timetravel voyeurs. not that we cared, we already knew that it was impossible to have anyone in the past see any timetraveller because of paradoxial circumstances. we shot the man that was going to try. with jigglyball launchers, not guns. jigglyballs hurt. they really do. *still rubs arm* SO KIDDIES, DONT TRY IT AT HOME!!! that is all. and sorry about the treaty room infiltration. i just wanted to be in something, i was so depressed.
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| January 26, 2010, 7:42 pm
Another week gone by....
bored.....bored.....bored.....
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| January 29, 2010, 6:08 pm
 Group moderator 
Y'all should watch some BSG.
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| January 29, 2010, 10:16 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Y'all should watch some BSG.

...What is BSG?
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| January 29, 2010, 11:08 pm
Quoting A Member Since December 7, 2007, Jake Parkinson
...What is BSG?


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=BSG
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| January 30, 2010, 12:02 am
Quoting Areetsa C

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=BSG


How???
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| January 30, 2010, 9:04 am
Is the MOAX in our universe?
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| January 30, 2010, 9:44 pm
Quoting Ryz Wheeling
Is the MOAX in our universe?

We had basically excommunicated any 3rd party factions, so no by rule, but we can for non-canon purposes. They used to like to think they are, but now I think they broke off.
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| January 30, 2010, 9:50 pm
Quoting Gus Indo
We had basically excommunicated any 3rd party factions, so no by rule, but we can for non-canon purposes. They used to like to think they are, but now I think they broke off.

doh, I really ought to read the name of the topic and first comment, BEFORE I post something repetitive.
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| January 30, 2010, 9:55 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Ryz Wheeling
Is the MOAX in our universe?


They got mad when we denied their legitimacy as 3rd faction, then made their alternate version where the COP has had a civil war and the EOS/NEOS are still around. And they're fighting the plankton whales eat, Krill or whatever.
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| January 30, 2010, 10:33 pm
Quoting + {Delta}138_Zam +
COP just HAD to come up with COPcakes.

Who came up with COPcakes anyways?
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| January 30, 2010, 11:27 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

They got mad when we denied their legitimacy as 3rd faction, then made their alternate version where the COP has had a civil war and the EOS/NEOS are still around. And they're fighting the plankton whales eat, Krill or whatever.


Well, it is interesting. The one guy-http://mocpages.com/moc.php/182630 has interesting comics in that universe too.
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| January 31, 2010, 12:59 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q

Well, it is interesting. The one guy-http://mocpages.com/moc.php/182630 has interesting comics in that universe too.

Yea..they're good...
But inaccurate. They say this 'Mr. Clarkson' is the leader...But we all know Moffat is our leader. I think they created their own little universe, but they don't know it.
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| January 31, 2010, 6:34 pm
Quoting Ryz Wheeling
Yea..they're good...
But inaccurate. They say this 'Mr. Clarkson' is the leader...But we all know Moffat could beat the tar out of the president in that comic.

These comics are very good, But Clarkson is a corrupt closed-minded old man bent on the destruction of the human race. Scratch that last part. Any further talk of these comics should be in their specific group.
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| January 31, 2010, 6:41 pm
Quoting A Member Since December 7, 2007, Jake Parkinson
These comics are very good, But Clarkson is a corrupt closed-minded old man bent on the destruction of the human race. Scratch that last part. Any further talk of these comics should be in their specific group.

I'm just saying, he should research the UNE more before he even starts a comic including us. Where are the VTOLs? Why do we have plasma weapons? Why is John Moffat excluded? There is so much inaccuracy with us. But everything else, the graphics, personalities, and the building is all excellent.
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| January 31, 2010, 6:50 pm
Quoting Ryz Wheeling
Yea..they're good...
But inaccurate. They say this 'Mr. Clarkson' is the leader...But we all know Moffat is our leader. I think they created their own little universe, but they don't know it.


I know, also, John is not that arragant. Only C.O.P.
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| January 31, 2010, 9:50 pm
Quoting Ryz Wheeling
I'm just saying, he should research the UNE more before he even starts a comic including us. Where are the VTOLs? Why do we have plasma weapons? Why is John Moffat excluded? There is so much inaccuracy with us. But everything else, the graphics, personalities, and the building is all excellent.


It is alternate, he told me that.
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| January 31, 2010, 9:52 pm
Quoting A Member Since December 7, 2007, Jake Parkinson
These comics are very good, But Clarkson is a corrupt closed-minded old man bent on the destruction of the human race. Scratch that last part. Any further talk of these comics should be in their specific group.


Just war monger
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| January 31, 2010, 9:52 pm
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