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| March 18, 2009, 8:56 pm
 Group moderator 
Am I allowed to use bullet shells instead of credits?
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| March 18, 2009, 8:57 pm
I added my creation to the group. Now once it is judged for value by judges commenting. I can buy this unit for the value that they put on it.
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| March 18, 2009, 8:57 pm
The mulah is money but sure you can call it that
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| March 18, 2009, 8:58 pm
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Who's the judges?
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| March 18, 2009, 8:58 pm
We need some that are not in a group I suppose
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| March 18, 2009, 8:58 pm
 Group moderator 
Hmm... Could I be a judge, even though I'm in the C.O.P.?
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| March 18, 2009, 8:59 pm
Quoting Gus Indo
We need some that are not in a group I suppose

I'll be a judge. I not bias when it comes to judging.
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| March 18, 2009, 9:02 pm
Ok i think that the COP and UNE dont have any bias people and everyone respects rules.
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| March 18, 2009, 9:03 pm
 Group moderator 
So, am I a judge, or not?
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| March 18, 2009, 9:03 pm
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I gotta go now.
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| March 18, 2009, 9:04 pm
Go to the judges topic

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| March 18, 2009, 9:04 pm
So, let me get this straight: you are not using any type of map, instead using a completely nongraphical means of gameplay?

I don't see why I bothered making the map, if no-one's going to use it.
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| March 18, 2009, 9:09 pm
I was gonna reply to Areesta's map and say it was confusing. How can it be the UNE without Earth? I don't get it. Also, his map is confusing because there is no given sense of direction to the Galactic Core. My map might be undetailed and rudementary, but at least we know where we are in realation to the Earth and such. No offense to Mr. C, but I stand by my previous statement that it's confusing.
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| March 18, 2009, 9:10 pm
yea its just lists since it is hard to make a map for everyone's planets.
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| March 18, 2009, 9:11 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
I was gonna reply to Areesta's map and say it was confusing. How can it be the UNE without Earth? I don't get it. Also, his map is confusing because there is no given sense of direction to the Galactic Core. My map might be undetailed and rudementary, but at least we know where we are in realation to the Earth and such. No offense to Mr. C, but I stand by my previous statement that it's confusing.


It's a small scale map of an alternate universe.

Thus, no earth. Probably no core either. Basically, if the whole COP-UNE conflict needs more than a star cluster to fight in, there's no point in illustrating individual planets.


And yes, of course it's difficult to include every planet since no-one wants to figure out what needs to be included.
If everyone would be willing to slow down and give me some time, I could work in their individual worlds. It takes time and effort, mostly not mine.

You see, I need to know what kind of a world it is, if it has any moons, if so, what type of moon, and I also need to know what it is called.
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| March 18, 2009, 9:13 pm
Quoting Areetsa C

It's a small scale map of an alternate universe.

Thus, no earth. Probably no core either. Basically, if the whole COP-UNE conflict needs more than a star cluster to fight in, there's no point in illustrating individual planets.


But... But... If this takes place in an alternate universe... Well first, I thought this was in universe, that the United Nations of Earth started from Earth, and secondly, this isn't the universe I thought I joined... I'll have to contact Ian on what exactly the state of existance is in...

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| March 18, 2009, 9:15 pm
No its in the milky way galaxy. There is an earth and mars. its your map Awe
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| March 18, 2009, 9:16 pm
 Group admin 
1)We are in this universe, I've talked to Ian about it. 2)Yes, The UNE started from earth
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| March 18, 2009, 9:17 pm
Quoting John Moffat
1)We are in this universe, I've talked to Ian about it. 2)Yes, The UNE started from earth

Is that why we are the United Nations of Earth? Wow!
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| March 18, 2009, 9:18 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

But... But... If this takes place in an alternate universe... Well first, I thought this was in universe, that the United Nations of Earth started from Earth, and secondly, this isn't the universe I thought I joined... I'll have to contact Ian on what exactly the state of existance is in...


I don't know; basically the whole thing is being reworked in SETI; mainly because the way things are going, we need a convenient cluster.

Okay, how's this: this is a small map of a FICTIONAL star cluster near A. Centauri.
There you go. A real life (sorta) battleground in a convenient location.

There you go: Mr. Moffat gets Terra AND he's nice and far away from the REAL fighting.
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| March 18, 2009, 9:19 pm
The battleground is the whole milky way
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| March 18, 2009, 9:20 pm
Oh, all right. I was freaking out that this whole thing was being changed. Alright, I understand what's hapening now. Areesta's map is a detailed mapping of a star cluster, my map is the whole galaxy.
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| March 18, 2009, 9:21 pm
Quoting Gus Indo
The battleground is the whole milky way


And, pray tell, HOW do you intend to include individual planets in a battlefield that size?
You'd have to work with whole starsystems instead, otherwise everything would slow down abominably.

Anyway, I think we need to scale things down a little; how about individual battles for seperate star clusters, assuming the intervening star systems are uninhabitable, and that only a few clusters contain livable worlds?
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| March 18, 2009, 9:21 pm
He does
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| March 18, 2009, 9:22 pm
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Quoting Gus Indo
The battleground is the whole milky way



Um, no. Only the borders of C.O.P. space

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| March 18, 2009, 9:22 pm
How about this alternate back-story: The COP and UNE decided to colonize a star cluster that does not include Earth. Both organizations found the cluster and wanted to claim it as their own, so now we have the group.

Now that sums things. Also, I noticed a error in the COP name; a coalition is a temporary agreement, so eventually, you guys will split apart.
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| March 18, 2009, 9:23 pm
Quoting Areetsa C

And, pray tell, HOW do you intend to include individual planets in a battlefield that size?
You'd have to work with whole starsystems instead, otherwise everything would slow down abominably.


And that's how my map works. I put down Star Systems instead of planets. Of course, the circle represnting them take up several on-map systems, but comprimises must be made.

My question now is how does the UNE fight planets that are on the other side of the COP? They would have to be more worried about holding what they have isntead of attacking worlds a thousand light years away.

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| March 18, 2009, 9:23 pm
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Quoting John Moffat


Um, no. Only the borders of C.O.P. space


You guys would have kept expanding except we were in the way
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| March 18, 2009, 9:23 pm
Quoting Clan Father Erik Ackroyd
How about this alternate back-story: The COP and UNE decided to colonize a star cluster that does not include Earth. Both organizations found the cluster and wanted to claim it as their own, so now we have the group.

Now that sums things. Also, I noticed a error in the COP name; a coalition is a temporary agreement, so eventually, you guys will split apart.


False. It's not a Coalition anymore. It's an empire that still keeps the name from 40,000 years ago. The backstory I wrote states this on our page.

But I like the idea for this game. We're fighting in this star cluster, and only that.
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| March 18, 2009, 9:25 pm
We have backgrounds and more but we need units added as creations. Add your units for the UNE and COP and judges should vote for values.
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| March 18, 2009, 9:25 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

False. It's not a Coalition anymore. It's an empire that still keeps the name from 40,000 years ago. The backstory I wrote states this on our page.

But I like the idea for this game. We're fighting in this star cluster, and only that.

Darn politics and their false names! Anyhow, I just read the backstory on the COP page, and I must admit that you did very well in writing it.
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| March 18, 2009, 9:26 pm
Why would the COP bother with this cluster unless they truly needed it?

If they were running out of resources, which makes sense, and the UNE was also getting short, then a fight over an insignificant cluster would become a battle for survival.
Especially if very few planets were suitable.
Certainly a better excuse for a huge arms race than a handful of colony worlds.
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| March 18, 2009, 9:29 pm
Gah! where's Fed?!? he is not on the list anymore!
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| March 18, 2009, 9:31 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Why would the COP bother with this cluster unless they truly needed it?

If they were running out of resources, which makes sense, and the UNE was also getting short, then a fight over an insignificant cluster would become a battle for survival.
Certainly a better excuse for a huge arms race than a handful of colony worlds.

Again, only a crude example instead of all of this bickering.

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| March 18, 2009, 9:32 pm
Now, I think it's actually time to start thinking up rules. For instance, how far can a spacecraft move in a single day? How much space does it need to slow down? And more importantly, what can stop it from moving?
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| March 18, 2009, 9:33 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Now, I think it's actually time to start thinking up rules. For instance, how far can a spacecraft move in a single day? How much space does it need to slow down? And more importantly, what can stop it from moving?

I know we want realism, but wouldn't what you suggested slow the game excessively?
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| March 18, 2009, 9:34 pm
this is not a board game. Are you familiar with galactic conquest?
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| March 18, 2009, 9:36 pm
It's a bit complex, but complexity is better than people making up rules on the fly (like, my spaceship can go to HERE and do THIS and THAT in one day before doing THIS over THERE)

No, I am not familiar with 'galactic conquest'.
No, I am not going to rush out and buy something.
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| March 18, 2009, 9:36 pm
Quoting Gus Indo
this is not a board game. Are you familiar with galactic conquest?

The group is private as of yet. So I doubt any person outside of that group has any knowledge on how it works.
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| March 18, 2009, 9:38 pm
I know but i get the idea of it
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| March 18, 2009, 9:39 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Now, I think it's actually time to start thinking up rules. For instance, how far can a spacecraft move in a single day? How much space does it need to slow down? And more importantly, what can stop it from moving?


There's two ways we can do this:

The Star Trek way, where everything happens suddenly with big glowy engines, or...

The Battlestar Galactica way, where things happen because of little thrusters and physics.

Star Trek way works fast, BSG way works slow. BSG is more real, Star Trek is not.

It depends, do we want to drag this out amongst younger members who don't have long attention spans as us who are older, or do we want to make this more fast paced so everyone can do what they have to do relitively fast?

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| March 18, 2009, 9:39 pm
Nice and slow, with real physics.

I don't like starwars physics, and I think it's time the proletariat were taught how things really work in space.
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| March 18, 2009, 9:43 pm
How's about we just use generic units? Generic starcruiser, fighters, infantry companies, artillery units, mechawhatnots, etc. etc.

I don't see how the whole 'mocoffs for fighting' thing is going to speed stuff up, though. Seems to me it'll just slow things down even more than using some RTS.
There is no point in having units without a battle system to let them fight.
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| March 18, 2009, 9:54 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Nice and slow, with real physics.

I don't like starwars physics, and I think it's time the proletariat were taught how things really work in space.


Agreed, comrade.

Protetariat... Brings me back to the days of Marx.

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| March 18, 2009, 9:54 pm
Quoting Cassidy Schaufele


I'd say that it'd be better to have an moc-off where everyone could build ONE "unit", and the judges could decide which would become the generic for each side.

An excellent idea. But, imagine the bickering amongst the organizations and newer members. Argumentation would occur on how they never had the chance to submit an entry, etc. Anyhow, I agree with you fully.
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| March 18, 2009, 10:01 pm
By the way i am working on some rules for a basic game.
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| March 18, 2009, 10:06 pm
Quoting Gus Indo
By the way i am working on some rules for a basic game.

Do they involve cupcakes?
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| March 18, 2009, 10:07 pm
lol, I actually get that joke! but no
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| March 18, 2009, 10:08 pm
Quoting Gus Indo
lol, I actually get that joke! but no

Darn.
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| March 18, 2009, 10:10 pm
Well, how about donuts?
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| March 18, 2009, 10:14 pm
Quoting Galactic Officer / Head Corporal Ben
Well, how about donuts?

And/or cookies, muffins, or pancakes.
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| March 18, 2009, 10:15 pm
Quoting Galactic Officer / Head Corporal Ben
Well, how about donuts?

Ummm forget that... I have an idea, how about GUS and only GUS makes the rules, we read em' we point out what we disagree with and make certian changes, like in Halo Wars, UNSC leaders use different powers, well how about different support units for individuals?

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| March 18, 2009, 10:16 pm
You do understand that that would give me full access to the bulk of the Imperial Assault Divisions? Well, not really, but it would give me at least a battalion of assault striders and support units; artillery, heavy power armour, recovery vehicles, etc. etc.

It would also give Fed his starwars clone army.
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| March 18, 2009, 10:44 pm
Quoting Galactic Officer / Head Corporal Ben
Ummm forget that... I have an idea, how about GUS and only GUS makes the rules, we read em' we point out what we disagree with and make certian changes, like in Halo Wars, UNSC leaders use different powers, well how about different support units for individuals?


I like that. The rules will be up by Friday if not thursday

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| March 18, 2009, 11:07 pm
Finally rules are on
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| March 19, 2009, 9:59 am
Quoting Commander Galvan
i think that judges should decide what class of vehical it is such as if someone posted a tank the judges could decide its classification, cost, ect..


yes thats the idea, btw you are a judge now. since you are a mod
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| March 19, 2009, 10:19 am
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