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Siege preparations
We are attacking Falmor, correct? I checked, and a LOT of Mythronians are participating in the MOCathalon, which takes place in March. I think we should attack Falmor then, and catch them off guard.
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| February 8, 2014, 11:27 am
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
We are attacking Falmor, correct? I checked, and a LOT of Mythronians are participating in the MOCathalon, which takes place in March. I think we should attack Falmor then, and catch them off guard.

Well, that sounds good. Since the declaration of (intensified) war is being mixed with the March UC, that's what we'll do. First comes the MOC-off - we can choose the ground for this, but the leader of Falmor has the option to choose a surrogate defender from his faction.

George is the current mayor of Falmor - what's the best terrain for me to fight him on? If he does ask someone else to take his place, what can we do to beat Halhi or Brick? I'll take suggestions from anywhere.
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| February 8, 2014, 5:02 pm
What are your strong building points?
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| February 8, 2014, 5:22 pm
You VS...
George: probably on the water.
Brick: On the water.
Halhi 141: On the water.
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| February 8, 2014, 6:04 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
You VS...
George: probably on the water.
Brick: On the water.
Halhi 141: On the water.

Ha ha... yay. Nobody likes ships, but I might do the best out of the three. I've already done well against George at sea, at least. I'll go research the three once I finish looking at the new LOM builds. In the meantime, do you think the other admins would let me get away with a wizard's airship, or would that be too steampunk?
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| February 8, 2014, 6:09 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Ha ha... yay. Nobody likes ships, but I might do the best out of the three. I've already done well against George at sea, at least. I'll go research the three once I finish looking at the new LOM builds. In the meantime, do you think the other admins would let me get away with a wizard's airship, or would that be too steampunk?

Ah, no wizard airship.
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| February 8, 2014, 6:11 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
Ah, no wizard airship.

No? All right. I'm going to start building a file on Halhi, then we can make a thread to keep tabs on our strongest rivals.
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| February 8, 2014, 6:19 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
No? All right. I'm going to start building a file on Halhi, then we can make a thread to keep tabs on our strongest rivals.

Don't do landscape against Halhi. His weakness is part shortage.
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| February 8, 2014, 6:21 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
Don't do landscape against Halhi. His weakness is part shortage.

Both of those are my weaknesses, too, but I've found out what parts I can beat him with. Now to check out Bricky...
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| February 8, 2014, 7:39 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Both of those are my weaknesses, too, but I've found out what parts I can beat him with. Now to check out Bricky...

Landscapes are my strong point.
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| February 8, 2014, 7:41 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
Landscapes are my strong point.

Agreed.
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| February 8, 2014, 7:52 pm
So in March we're going to do a MOCoff then?
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| February 8, 2014, 7:52 pm
Quoting Mister Lego ~
So in March we're going to do a MOCoff then?

Gilbert and I are laying siege to Falmor! Yay!
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| February 8, 2014, 8:02 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Agreed.

Ah. Thanks.
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| February 8, 2014, 8:03 pm
Quoting Adam Brunsting
Gilbert and I are laying siege to Falmor! Yay!

Cool! Mythron is going down :D
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| February 8, 2014, 8:05 pm
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Quoting Mister Lego ~
Cool! Mythron is going down :D

Well, it's part of the city-raider system, which means that the first part is a one-on-one battle between me and an unknown Mythronian, but the challenge will reflect the battle.
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| February 8, 2014, 8:08 pm
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So, I re-read the rules and, contrary to my belief, that it took a 100-point person to lead the attack - there can be up to five others including all defenders and attackers who don't have 100 points. That means that, if the MOC-off succeeds, we might have to go against Halhi, Brick AND George instead of George and any Mythronian who can scrape together 100 points in the next two months.

Taking this into account, I propose a challenge - the two top-scoring Rainosians (or Enalicans or Outlaws with a rank for dual factionship) in the March UC will be the first in line for the attack. Everyone else with this citizenship category can build for the actual attack, too, and if their attack MOCs are better, they will be placed in the front line instead. Oh, and the rules do allow for an interesting tactic - generic city-attack or city-defense MOCs can be built at any time before or during the two months of a city attack. Anyone want to start building now?
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| February 8, 2014, 9:22 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
So, I re-read the rules and, contrary to my belief, that it took a 100-point person to lead the attack - there can be up to five others including all defenders and attackers who don't have 100 points. That means that, if the MOC-off succeeds, we might have to go against Halhi, Brick AND George instead of George and any Mythronian who can scrape together 100 points in the next two months.

Taking this into account, I propose a challenge - the two top-scoring Rainosians (or Enalicans or Outlaws with a rank for dual factionship) in the March UC will be the first in line for the attack. Everyone else with this citizenship category can build for the actual attack, too, and if their attack MOCs are better, they will be placed in the front line instead. Oh, and the rules do allow for an interesting tactic - generic city-attack or city-defense MOCs can be built at any time before or during the two months of a city attack. Anyone want to start building now?

I'll work hard on the March UC, but don't want to start building a city attack. I am working on my rank challenge now. Will my getting 100 points by March do anything for me?
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| February 9, 2014, 6:22 am
Oh, and another note: Spine is in Carthal, but I will make a Freebuild of him calling for Council of the Dragon reinforcements from Northern Rainos. They land in Northern Mythron, and join Spine. Then, they will continue south until they reach Falmor. Then, we can attack Falmor from the north and the west.
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| February 9, 2014, 6:25 am
Well, it looks we're in for a heated battle. I asked Gilbert to wait another month before attacking, but I don't think he'll listen. Unfortunately, I can't stop him with rules this time. In the event we are attacked, I think our best builder's would be You, Ian, George, and myself.
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| February 9, 2014, 10:52 am

Group moderator

Halhi 141
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Quoting ~ Brick
Well, it looks we're in for a heated battle. I asked Gilbert to wait another month before attacking, but I don't think he'll listen. Unfortunately, I can't stop him with rules this time. In the event we are attacked, I think our best builder's would be You, Ian, George, and myself.

You can stop him with the faction equality rule (faction has to be within 50 points of the attacking faction).

And I think Fraser is better than Ian.
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| February 9, 2014, 11:03 am

Ian .....
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Quoting Halhi 141
You can stop him with the faction equality rule (faction has to be within 50 points of the attacking faction).

And I think Fraser is better than Ian.

Thanks Halhi, *Sigh* I guess you're right though.
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| February 9, 2014, 11:05 am

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Halhi 141
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Wait, what about Lindel and T J Powell? They're also pretty skilled, around the level of Fraser. Maybe all 6 of us should build and compare our entries here, so that we can only post the best of the best MOCs?
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| February 9, 2014, 11:05 am

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~ Brick
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Quoting Halhi 141
You can stop him with the faction equality rule (faction has to be within 50 points of the attacking faction).

And I think Fraser is better than Ian.

Aw, I forgot about that one!
I agree also that all 6 of us should build entries, then we compare for the best.
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| February 9, 2014, 11:09 am
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| February 9, 2014, 12:09 pm
Nerogue is a private group now. I think we should leave this one private too.
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| February 9, 2014, 12:09 pm
I'd love to take down some Mythronians! (is this group private?)
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| February 9, 2014, 12:19 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
I'll work hard on the March UC, but don't want to start building a city attack. I am working on my rank challenge now. Will my getting 100 points by March do anything for me?

No, actually.
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| February 9, 2014, 12:28 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
Nerogue is a private group now. I think we should leave this one private too.

If we must. It's so much fun to flaunt our non-privacy, but, if we do make it private, I can post my full breakdown of Halhi. Thanks for the conversation clip - but you might want to watch out, because Mythron still has a secret sub-group called the Monkeys of Lissenbough. I asked Halhi to take it down (since we got rid of ours, after all), but the last time I checked it was still there.
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| February 9, 2014, 12:31 pm
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Quoting Toa Infernum
I'd love to take down some Mythronians! (is this group private?)

It is now. Will the MOCathlon slow you down if this takes place in March and April?
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| February 9, 2014, 12:35 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
It is now. Will the MOCathlon slow you down if this takes place in March and April?

I don't think I'll compete. I'm kinda contest-ed out. So I'm all for the MOC-offs here!
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| February 9, 2014, 12:38 pm
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Quoting Toa Infernum
I don't think I'll compete. I'm kinda contest-ed out. So I'm all for the MOC-offs here!

It looks like Rainos will have a strong army, then. The only problem is that the Mythronians are doing everything they can to stop us on technicalities, and FNJ, the admin who actually controls the "Attacking Cities" comment, is on their side. I have Caleb and OoL backing me in the staff group, but this might be a rough process.
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| February 9, 2014, 12:41 pm
<<<<Quoting Gilbert Despathens

I invited you to a group. Join it.
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| February 9, 2014, 1:16 pm
I found out that Halhi 141 is technically cheating by using some sort of method to hack into our group. If he had a spy rank, I wouldn't care, but I don't like cheaters.

Group moderator

Halhi 141

They work, whether the group is private or not
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| February 9, 2014, 1:22 pm
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There's a problem. It's not the fifty-point clause that Halhi was excited about - it's that Mythron doesn't want to face a city attack while its best members are in the MOCathlon. They're asking for a two-month delay, and I'm tempted to postpone or call-off the attack until we can face them in an even battle. On the other hand, there are obviously some unattractive aspects of a delay - our plans are put on ice and I have to re-write three months' worth of my character's story. Any ideas?
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| February 9, 2014, 1:26 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
I found out that Halhi 141 is technically cheating by using some sort of method to hack into our group. If he had a spy rank, I wouldn't care, but I don't like cheaters.

Group moderator

Halhi 141

They work, whether the group is private or not

Could you explain how this works? Then we'll yell at Halhi.
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| February 9, 2014, 1:27 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Could you explain how this works? Then we'll yell at Halhi.

I don't know how it works, but I have proof Halhi knows how to do it. See the main LOM group in the General convo.
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| February 9, 2014, 1:31 pm
Quoting Adam Brunsting
<<<<Quoting Gilbert Despathens

I invited you to a group. Join it.

Did you see this Gilbert?
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| February 9, 2014, 1:34 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
Did you see this Gilbert?

I saw it... but will that help at all if there's a way to look inside private groups?
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| February 9, 2014, 1:41 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
I saw it... but will that help at all if there's a way to look inside private groups?

He will see you write in the group from your activity. Change the name every time we think of it.
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| February 9, 2014, 1:42 pm
False Information
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| February 9, 2014, 1:45 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting

Cool. Let's name it "The Lands of Mythron" so he can't tell which group is which.
You mean, I was right in guessing that it doesn't work for big/quoted text?
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| February 9, 2014, 1:47 pm
Alright, lets use the code we came up with in the other group. 1125447896462659564574574579579794659795959748

5485780891549054564040130741564801468704681048

01684670189430616873034861-67481-43871-181-648

67861731917310780548-8-48748035375649756475947

5674654710507456475647810983476504857647018473

65781387450187436041./145424624646545457080542

0468920872039457420450457
Got it Gilbert?
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| February 9, 2014, 1:47 pm
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Just a second - let me get my calculator.
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| February 9, 2014, 1:48 pm
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Okay, I got it.
Seriously, though, I'm not sure Halhi will try to use it. MOCpages people are sneaky, but they generally stop when they're caught spying. Halhi's also fairly responsible (even if he complains), so I'm somewhat inclined to take him at his word unless you have proof that he did it more than once.
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| February 9, 2014, 1:50 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Cool. Let's name it "The Lands of Mythron" so he can't tell which group is which.
You mean, I was right in guessing that it doesn't work for big/quoted text?

I have no idea.I was just trying to get your attention.
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| February 9, 2014, 1:50 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
I have no idea.I was just trying to get your attention.

Let's just wait and see what Halhi says and stop making fools of ourselves. I need to do some thinking anyway.
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| February 9, 2014, 1:51 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Okay, I got it.
Seriously, though, I'm not sure Halhi will try to use it. MOCpages people are sneaky, but they generally stop when they're caught spying. Halhi's also fairly responsible (even if he complains), so I'm somewhat inclined to take him at his word unless you have proof that he did it more than once.

I have proof:
He did it once like I showed you with the copy and paste, and then he did it again, and said: "Copying our info, are you?"
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| February 9, 2014, 1:52 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
stop making fools of ourselves.

That will never happen.
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| February 9, 2014, 1:53 pm
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Quoting Gilbert
Too much big text - there's an easier way. We'll just edit old comments instead of writing new ones - it'll take a hacker some time to go comment by comment and find out which ones we're using, and we can change then regularly if we have to.
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| February 9, 2014, 1:55 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
That will never happen.

Hahahaha.
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| February 9, 2014, 1:55 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Fancy


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| February 9, 2014, 1:56 pm
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Hey, look!
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Halhi had a way to block the hacking trick - it's in the general conversation thread. He also told me how the trick works to assure me that it is block-able, but I'm not going to pass it on. I thought he was trustworthy, and I'm glad to see that I was right.

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| February 9, 2014, 4:08 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Hey, look!
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Halhi had a way to block the hacking trick - it's in the general conversation thread. He also told me how the trick works to assure me that it is block-able, but I'm not going to pass it on. I thought he was trustworthy, and I'm glad to see that I was right.
Halhi is NOT doing the MOCathalon anymore. We should just attack Elpis.

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| February 9, 2014, 5:45 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Hey, look!
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Halhi had a way to block the hacking trick - it's in the general conversation thread. He also told me how the trick works to assure me that it is block-able, but I'm not going to pass it on. I thought he was trustworthy, and I'm glad to see that I was right.
Halhi is NOT doing the MOCathalon anymore. We should just attack Elpis.

I forgot for that your character has an aversion to Outlaws, but Mythron is still target number one. Anyway, if Halhi's NOT going to do the MOCathlon, that's incentive TO attack Falmor - we will have the honor of facing a powerful enemy. Do you fear the ability of Mythron?
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| February 9, 2014, 6:00 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
I forgot for that your character has an aversion to Outlaws, but Mythron is still target number one. Anyway, if Halhi's NOT going to do the MOCathlon, that's incentive TO attack Falmor - we will have the honor of facing a powerful enemy. Do you fear the ability of Mythron?

Um....I won't answer that. :P
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| February 9, 2014, 6:11 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
I forgot for that your character has an aversion to Outlaws, but Mythron is still target number one. Anyway, if Halhi's NOT going to do the MOCathlon, that's incentive TO attack Falmor - we will have the honor of facing a powerful enemy. Do you fear the ability of Mythron?

I, for one, think it'd be fun to go up against Halhi. Average Gnome on Average Gnome. >:)
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| February 9, 2014, 9:14 pm
AUGH! Too bad I'm far away on my own mission! But this will be fun to watch! :D
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| February 10, 2014, 12:49 pm
Do I hear a siege against Falmor going on here? If it's allowed, you can count on this Outlaw/Rainosian to help you out! :)
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| February 10, 2014, 1:02 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
There's a problem. It's not the fifty-point clause that Halhi was excited about - it's that Mythron doesn't want to face a city attack while its best members are in the MOCathlon. They're asking for a two-month delay, and I'm tempted to postpone or call-off the attack until we can face them in an even battle. On the other hand, there are obviously some unattractive aspects of a delay - our plans are put on ice and I have to re-write three months' worth of my character's story. Any ideas?

I say show them no mercy. I doubt they would show any to us.
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| February 10, 2014, 1:16 pm
Quoting Jacob Pennington
I say show them no mercy. I doubt they would show any to us.

Mhahaha, the armies of Guaire will soon be prepared. >:)
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| February 10, 2014, 4:29 pm
Quoting Toa Infernum
Mhahaha, the armies of Guaire will soon be prepared. >:)

Yay. The Dragon knights will also be rallied.
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| February 10, 2014, 4:35 pm
Quoting Adam Brunsting
Yay. The Dragon knights will also be rallied.

And I'll just sit here and watch. :P
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| February 10, 2014, 7:24 pm
Quoting Professor B.
And I'll just sit here and watch. :P

The least you could do is cheer us on.
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| February 11, 2014, 3:04 pm
Quoting Adam Brunsting
The least you could do is cheer us on.

Well, yes, of course! Naturally!
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| February 11, 2014, 3:13 pm
I lost In the tourney. Must destroy every city on the map.
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| February 12, 2014, 6:55 am
Quoting Adam Brunsting
I lost In the tourney. Must destroy every city on the map.

XD Don't worry, the CK will avenge you!
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| February 12, 2014, 8:42 am
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
I lost In the tourney. Must destroy every city on the map.

What if we held off until May? I would really like to see us compete against Brick, Halhi and George, but this is the situation - they're doing the MA, but, if we attack now, they'll drop out of it to face us. I'd hate to do that to them because, even if they're Mythronians, some studies say that they're still people too. Maybe the Outlaws, Nerogue or Enalica would be ready, but we have no casus belli in any case, especially the latter.
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| February 12, 2014, 11:03 am
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
What if we held off until May? I would really like to see us compete against Brick, Halhi and George, but this is the situation - they're doing the MA, but, if we attack now, they'll drop out of it to face us. I'd hate to do that to them because, even if they're Mythronians, some studies say that they're still people too. Maybe the Outlaws, Nerogue or Enalica would be ready, but we have no casus belli in any case, especially the latter.

What? They're people?! :P

I think I'll actually be in the MA, so May would work well for me!
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| February 12, 2014, 11:21 am
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Quoting Toa Infernum
What? They're people?! :P

I think I'll actually be in the MA, so May would work well for me!

Okay - great.
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| February 12, 2014, 11:24 am
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Okay - great.

I'd like to participate in the siege as well, so May works for me too since I'm also in the MA.
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| February 12, 2014, 3:03 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
What if we held off until May? I would really like to see us compete against Brick, Halhi and George, but this is the situation - they're doing the MA, but, if we attack now, they'll drop out of it to face us. I'd hate to do that to them because, even if they're Mythronians, some studies say that they're still people too. Maybe the Outlaws, Nerogue or Enalica would be ready, but we have no casus belli in any case, especially the latter.

What?!? I dropped OUT of the MA so I. COULD attack in March. If you hold off, can I attack Elpis?
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| February 12, 2014, 3:03 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
What?!? I dropped OUT of the MA so I. COULD attack in March. If you hold off, can I attack Elpis?

Is the time to enter the MA past already? I didn't realize you intended to participate.
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| February 12, 2014, 4:32 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Is the time to enter the MA past already? I didn't realize you intended to participate.

Well, no. But I would rather do LOM stuff than participate. So, can I attack Elpis? Pweez?
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| February 12, 2014, 4:45 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
Well, no. But I would rather do LOM stuff than participate. So, can I attack Elpis? Pweez?

Let me think... If the attack on Falmor begins in May, then you need to win the 100-point rank and declare the attack by February 27. Then you can choose the setting for the MOC-off on March 1, leaving three weeks for the MOC-off and five weeks for the siege building before we attack Mythron.
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| February 12, 2014, 4:57 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Let me think... If the attack on Falmor begins in May, then you need to win the 100-point rank and declare the attack by February 27. Then you can choose the setting for the MOC-off on March 1, leaving three weeks for the MOC-off and five weeks for the siege building before we attack Mythron.

Grr. It isn't possible for me to reach 100 be the 27th. I would still need 11 points and a rank challenge.
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| February 12, 2014, 4:59 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
Grr. It isn't possible for me to reach 100 be the 27th. I would still need 11 points and a rank challenge.

Right. Wait a sec, you have 89 points already? I need to update those.
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| February 12, 2014, 5:00 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Let me think... If the attack on Falmor begins in May, then you need to win the 100-point rank and declare the attack by February 27. Then you can choose the setting for the MOC-off on March 1, leaving three weeks for the MOC-off and five weeks for the siege building before we attack Mythron.

When exactly is the attack? And also, do I need to have a 100 points to participate?
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| February 12, 2014, 5:01 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Right. Wait a sec, you have 89 points already? I need to update those.

No, but with 3 more freebuilds I will. I have 83.
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| February 12, 2014, 5:02 pm
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Quoting Jacob Pennington
When exactly is the attack? And also, do I need to have a 100 points to participate?

Do you mean Spine's attack on Elpis or our attack on Falmor? You don't need 100 points either way, but you do have to wait for someone else with enough points to launch the attack. The city's defender can have any two faction-mates, and the main attacker can have any two faction-mates (including, I hope, spies or ambassadors). I plan to start the attack on Falmor on May 1, but the MOCs for an attack or defense (aside from the opening MOC-off) can be built at any time.
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| February 12, 2014, 5:03 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Do you mean Spine's attack on Elpis or our attack on Falmor? You don't need 100 points either way, but you do have to wait for someone else with enough points to launch the attack. The city's defender can have any two faction-mates, and the main attacker can have any two faction-mates (including, I hope, spies or ambassadors).

Oh, so you only need two people to help with your siege? If so, am I allowed to help, because I've been waiting for a chance to swing at Mythron.
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| February 12, 2014, 5:06 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
No, but with 3 more freebuilds I will. I have 83.

Time for me to update the points, I think.
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| February 12, 2014, 5:06 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Time for me to update the points, I think.

Yup.
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| February 12, 2014, 5:07 pm
I think I could attack Elpis in April. Is that OK?
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| February 13, 2014, 7:08 am
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
I think I could attack Elpis in April. Is that OK?

And attack Falmor in May?
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| February 13, 2014, 8:16 am
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
And attack Falmor in May?

Do you need me to attack Falmor? Or would I just be there? All I want to do is attack the outlaws, so my story works out. Also, I want to do a MOCoff.
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| February 13, 2014, 2:59 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
Do you need me to attack Falmor? Or would I just be there? All I want to do is attack the outlaws, so my story works out. Also, I want to do a MOCoff.

I don't know if the other admins will stand for two city attacks at once, and I'm still not sure if I want to upset the Outlaws (a city attack by any member of our faction could bring them down on us). If I can see a way through, though, I'll give you the all-clear to challenge Shawn to a duel. If you win that, of course, you'll have the city attack.
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| February 13, 2014, 3:33 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
I don't know if the other admins will stand for two city attacks at once, and I'm still not sure if I want to upset the Outlaws (a city attack by any member of our faction could bring them down on us). If I can see a way through, though, I'll give you the all-clear to challenge Shawn to a duel. If you win that, of course, you'll have the city attack.

Meh. Ok.
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| February 13, 2014, 3:46 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
Meh. Ok.

I hinted in the Outlaw group that they might have a challenge - depending on their response, this might be easier to arrange than I thought.
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| February 13, 2014, 3:47 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
I hinted in the Outlaw group that they might have a challenge - depending on their response, this might be easier to arrange than I thought.

I think the best thing for me is to challenge Shawn in a swamp battle.
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| February 13, 2014, 3:49 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
I think the best think for me is to challenge Shawn in a swamp battle.

Errrrr..... Half of his builds are swamps - the other half are interiors. You might want to make sure that your greens can beat his without a doubt. I think you could take him if you set the battle at a fortress of some kind, though - exterior walls are his weakness.
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| February 13, 2014, 3:54 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Errrrr..... Half of his builds are swamps - the other half are interiors. You might want to make sure that your greens can beat his without a doubt. I think you could take him if you set the battle at a fortress of some kind, though - exterior walls are his weakness.

Hmm. I didn't know his builds were swamps. I will go check him out.
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| February 13, 2014, 3:56 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Errrrr..... Half of his builds are swamps - the other half are interiors. You might want to make sure that your greens can beat his without a doubt. I think you could take him if you set the battle at a fortress of some kind, though - exterior walls are his weakness.

I've got it: a ruined swamp castle will be the battleground.
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| February 13, 2014, 4:04 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
I've got it: a ruined swamp castle will be the battleground.

Good luck. Now, go get that rank challenge!
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| February 13, 2014, 4:05 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Good luck. Now, go get that rank challenge!

And 17 more points. -_- I will get 6 more this month though.
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| February 13, 2014, 4:06 pm
Quoting Adam Brunsting
And 17 more points. -_- I will get 6 more this month though.

YOU CAN DO IT!
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| February 13, 2014, 4:14 pm
Quoting Toa Infernum
YOU CAN DO IT!

I will have my revenge. Although, my story will take a VERY unexpected turn once I reach 125 points.



Rise of Lukas Spine Jr.!!!!
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| February 13, 2014, 4:17 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
I will have my revenge. Although, my story will take a VERY unexpected turn once I reach 125 points.



Rise of Lukas Spine Jr.!!!!

Ha ha, now it's unexpected.
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| February 13, 2014, 4:36 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Ha ha, now it's unexpected.

The fall of spine.

The rise of Gyllfore.


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| February 13, 2014, 4:56 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
The fall of spine.

The rise of Gyllfore.


Dang it, now that is a spoiler. STOP GIVING AWAY THE CLIMAX!
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| February 13, 2014, 9:31 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Dang it, now that is a spoiler. STOP GIVING AWAY THE CLIMAX!

Not sure if you saw it over in the Outlaw group, but I'm willing to defend whichever city Adam attacks.
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| February 13, 2014, 9:34 pm
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Quoting Jacob Pennington
Not sure if you saw it over in the Outlaw group, but I'm willing to defend whichever city Adam attacks.

Yep, I saw it. Politically, it's a little awkward, but, what the heck - "blood for the blood god," as my psycho friends say.
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| February 13, 2014, 9:39 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Yep, I saw it. Politically, it's a little awkward, but, what the heck - "blood for the blood god," as my psycho friends say.

I'd prefer not to fight my ally, but the motherland always comes first.
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| February 13, 2014, 9:42 pm
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Quoting Jacob Pennington
I'd prefer not to fight my ally, but the motherland always comes first.

Right. I would do the same if some Enalican was to attack, of course.
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| February 13, 2014, 9:54 pm
Quoting Jacob Pennington
I'd prefer not to fight my ally, but the motherland always comes first.

I hope you've been practicing swamps!
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| February 14, 2014, 6:51 am
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Dang it, now that is a spoiler. STOP GIVING AWAY THE CLIMAX!

Yup.You probably already guessed that ----- ----- -----.
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| February 14, 2014, 7:27 am
Get ready for all my spying awesomeness:


A planning topic for Falmor's defense. First off, we need a spy in the Rainos group. I can get my spy rank, but it might take a few weeks since I have a AC entry first, then I have to get the 15 and 25 point ranks before the 50 point rank. Anyone else that has over 50 points (I'm talking to you, Ian and Brick) and would be able to get the rank faster than me?


Here's a rundown of Gilbert's strengths and weaknesses. I'll do one for Infernum later, but with all bluntness, as long as we avoid dragons and sea battles, Infy isn't much of a threat in comparison.


Gilbert Despathens:
Skills:
Landscaping:
-Gilbert's landscaping is probably one of his weakest points.
-He hasn't done much rockwork, but that which he was done is typically either simple SNOT rocks or a variation of the studs up technique by hinging each individual slope. This technique is fairly ineffective and has no advantage whatsoever over the typical studs-up design.
-Gilbert's foliage is decent but not above average; he relies too much on yellow flowers and bamboo leaves in the only attempt at foliage that I've seen from him recently. He does, however, have an interesting way of hinging the bamboo leaves, but it doesn't add much to the MOC.
-Gilbert does not build trees very often, but they range from simple arch brick trees (ironically, the most recent type that he's used) to more interesting with lots of 1x1 rounds stacked, curving out with foliage. Neither technique is especially realistic- he lacks realistic tilting of leaves, and all leaves pointing straight out isn't a very pleasing look.
-Gilbert's landscapes are heavily reliant on dark tan, which gets generic from overuse.
-His paths are average and are simple studs up designs.
-Gilbert's coloring is also a weakness - dark tan+brown or tan+dark tan are two color combos that he likes but hasn't used effectively.
-Gilbert's water ranges from mediocre to good. However, it seems that he is low on water pieces since he's never done very large amounts of it.

Buildings:
-Gilbert has used the Luke Watkins style stone wall design in the past, however, it seems that he has abandoned it for two much less effective designs. The first is a blocky SNOTted tiles design that lacks texture and wastes pieces, the other is an inefficient mix of masonry bricks (often with the backside out - not good) and SNOTted tiled that lacks any consistency.
-Gilbert, however, has also used a tan/dark tan color scheme for his SNOTted tile/plate stonework that looks amazing and is very effective. However, he has only used it once and it is uncertain whether he will ever use it again.
-Gilbert experiments with a lot of techniques, but a lot of them are ineffective. His weakness is hollow studs showing in a lot of them. However, he has several effective ones, like his vine technique for wall detailing.
- His overall building designs look quite good. However, it's been a while since he last did an exterior (excluding his Fairytale rescue). Up close, some of his building designs tend to be a bit sloppy, and the architecture doesn't always look effective. His coloring is also not the greatest - mixes of red and dark red aren't pleasing. Overall, however, this is one of his strengths. Note: he has noted that my buildings are approaching or passing his level of work.
-His timber framing techniques are good and he uses a technique similar to the one I used in my white shop on the end in my TT R5 build. However, he has not used the half-plate offset technique with studs up walls and it is unlikely that he will in fear of copying my technique.
-Gilbert has not made many small buildings recently - the last ones he made are at least 3 stories tall. It is uncertain whether he'd be able to make a good small shop.
-Gilbert's flooring is fantastic. He has large amounts of masonry bricks, grey, black, and white 2x2 tiles, and brown tiles which he uses to great effect along with some cheese rugs.
-His interiors are very good. However, I would humbly say that my AC entry is approaching the level of his Black Knight Tavern (feel free to disagree once it's posted) and I built it in 2-3 days rather than that many months. Speed is not his strong point.
-Gilbert dislikes boats and his boats are blocky and blandly colored. He can, however make large boats. His micro boats are below average and consist of minimum pieces and no interesting parts use.



Toa Infernum:
Skills:
Landscaping:
-Infernum's landscaping is a bit different from the ordinary, but it's generally not very impressive.
-He's done a lot of rockwork yet has only once ventured beyond the average studs up rockwork. This example was rough (and not in a good way). His rockwork, like most of his landscaping, is overall reliant on 1x1 dark tan plates, olive green cheese/1x2 plates, and dark brown 1x2 curved slopes. This mix of colors is overkill and is now overused by him.
-Infernum's foliage is decent but not above average; it's based on basically randomly placing random pieces until it looks "good". His color schemes, sometimes mixing dark green, olive green, and dark tan, are messy and ineffective.
-Infernum's trees have the same problem as his rockwork - too simple and too many rare colors.
-Infernum's landscapes are usually either bland grey wedge plate rocky landscapes or chaotic tan/dark tan/brown/dark orange/dark brown landscapes. Both have too much olive green and dark brown which seems to be added to just show his supply of rare colors.
-As you can see, his problem is colors which are frankly quite poor and again are just done to show off his supply of rare colors.
-Infernum's water technique (#1) is average and is a mix of trans-blue and trans- blue studs that don't always go together well. Trans light blue studs, which it seems that only I have in large quantities, look much better usually. His new water technique is very original but lacks any refinement, like most of his other parts of his builds. It's blocky and has some chaotic coloring. Nevertheless, blockiness and chaotic coloring aside, the overall effect is quite good. It's unknown whether he has the piece count to do it in high quantities.

Buildings:
-Infernum's stonework is sloppy and ineffective. He lacks a main color in his stonework, having a random mix of bley bricks and 1x2 dark bley log bricks. He uses none of the old greys, from what I've seen, which isn't a good idea. His other technique is a mix of masonry bricks and 1x1 round plates, which is similarly ineffective.
-He can incorporate some interesting architecture and shaping into his stonework, but he overdoes it and it looks messy and overdetailed.
-Infernum lacks any originality in his techniques, and it shows.
- As far as I can tell, Infernum has never tried out any buildings other than castle walls.
-Infernum's flooring is sloppy. He mixes masonry bricks and cheese slope mosaics for a poor overall look.
-His interiors are okay but nothing special
-Infernum's boats are quite good. However, he lacks any interesting shaping and just has a flat boat. They have no detail and colors either; he hides this with some messy texturing and mix of brown and dark brown. He uses prefab or custom cloth sails and often prefab hulls.

Other:
-Infernum's only real strength is creatures. He is very skilled at dragon building, and his bionicles are fantastic too. However, his dragons once more fall under the problem of chaotic color schemes.

Overall, Infernum shouldn't be too much of a threat - except for one thing: people love his builds, no matter how bad they are. His photography might be one reason.

Other stuff:
-Gilbert must win a moc-off against one of us (probably me) first. This will take place (probably) in a landscape environment, judging from the attacking cities thread - so he's in his weak area. Then again, landscaping, other than rockwork, isn't really something I enjoy all that much; like Gilbert, my favorite thing to build is architecture now.
-George must defend the city since he's the leader...that's a problem. He's inactive and not as skilled as some others here, to be blunt (I'd prefer Fraser or TJ to join Me and Brick). Brick, perhaps you could give me the city temporarily until the city attack is done?
-Not sure when it will happen - anyone know? Be sure to use the full six weeks, post plenty of WIP pictures, etc.
-Can other factions (Nerogueians) help us? If so, FNJ or Stephen could be good third members. They both have flaws though - Stephen doesn't spend enough time on his builds and he's not as much of a perfectionist as people like me and Gilbert; FNJ is overrated and I'm not really sure how good he is.

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| March 16, 2014, 1:42 pm
Interesting... Giving us the run down, eh?
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| March 16, 2014, 2:21 pm
Quoting Toa Infernum
Interesting... Giving us the run down, eh?

Yuppers.
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| March 16, 2014, 2:39 pm
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Ha ha ha... I'm not sure whether to say, "Ouch, is my rockwork really that bad?" or cheer that Halhi is judging me by what I've done wrong rather than right. I think I can still beat him with buildings any day of the week - nine out of ten techniques he used on his last build were probably copied from my designs, with the exception of the half-plate offset he's so inexplicably proud of. I'll go take down the Halhi briefing.
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| March 16, 2014, 6:25 pm
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Quoting Toa Infernum
Interesting... Giving us the run down, eh?

I think he's focusing too much on perceived weaknesses rather than strengths. Halhi's a clever one, but too negative and prone to complain. I think you could take him on your own ground even in the castle genre.
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| March 16, 2014, 6:32 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
Yuppers.

Could you tell them that they can only use people who are members of their own faction? You don't have to tell them that spies and ambassadors count.
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| March 16, 2014, 6:33 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Ha ha ha... I'm not sure whether to say, "Ouch, is my rockwork really that bad?" or cheer that Halhi is judging me by what I've done wrong rather than right. I think I can still beat him with buildings any day of the week - nine out of ten techniques he used on his last build were probably copied from my designs, with the exception of the half-plate offset he's so inexplicably proud of. I'll go take down the Halhi briefing.

Ha, ha, that's was pretty much my response exactly. I posted similar comment in the Gnome's group.
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| March 16, 2014, 6:35 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Could you tell them that they can only use people who are members of their own faction? You don't have to tell them that spies and ambassadors count.

Oooh, sneeekaay.
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| March 16, 2014, 6:35 pm
Quoting Toa Infernum
Oooh, sneeekaay.

Indeed.

I told them.
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| March 16, 2014, 6:36 pm
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I wonder... they know we have a spy, right? Is there a complete report elsewhere?
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| March 16, 2014, 6:40 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
I wonder... they know we have a spy, right? Is there a complete report elsewhere?

What? Is there something I need to find out?
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| March 16, 2014, 6:41 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
What? Is there something I need to find out?

If they're clever, it won't be something you could find out. Email discussion, for example.
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| March 16, 2014, 6:43 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
If they're clever, it won't be something you could find out. Email discussion, for example.

If so, they have left no hint of doing so.
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| March 16, 2014, 6:44 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
If so, they have left no hint of doing so.

I'm probably worrying too much... they are Mythronians, after all.
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| March 16, 2014, 6:47 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
I'm probably worrying too much... they are Mythronians, after all.

Ha, ha, too true.
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| March 16, 2014, 6:47 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
I'm probably worrying too much... they are Mythronians, after all.

They probably wouldn't be able to figure something tricky out. I leave now to make my rank challenge.
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| March 16, 2014, 6:48 pm
Quoting Adam Brunsting
They probably wouldn't be able to figure something tricky out. I leave now to make my rank challenge.

I still have to make my 50 and 75 point rank thingies...
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| March 16, 2014, 7:20 pm
Quoting Toa Infernum
I still have to make my 50 and 75 point rank thingies...

Well, get a move on!
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| March 16, 2014, 7:36 pm
Quoting Adam Brunsting
Well, get a move on!

After my Tourney build. ;)
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| March 16, 2014, 10:00 pm
Quoting Toa Infernum
After my Tourney build. ;)

Yes, of course.
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| March 17, 2014, 6:52 am
I need permission to attack Elpis Gilbert!!!!! In the attacking cities thread, it says a faction leader decides the city I attack. Select Elpis please!!!!
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| March 18, 2014, 5:52 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
I need permission to attack Elpis Gilbert!!!!! In the attacking cities thread, it says a faction leader decides the city I attack. Select Elpis please!!!!

Permission granted - I'll notify the Outlaws. They seem cool with this, so you have clearance to declare the setting of the opening MOCoff on May 1.
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| March 18, 2014, 7:03 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Permission granted - I'll notify the Outlaws. They seem cool with this, so you have clearance to declare the setting of the opening MOCoff on May 1.

May? I thought I could in April. I only need to notify one week before the first.
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| March 18, 2014, 7:06 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
May? I thought I could in April. I only need to notify one week before the first.

Sorry, I meant April.
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| March 18, 2014, 7:13 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Sorry, I meant April.

ah. Thanks. I have a nice 10 days off from school at the beginning of April.
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| March 18, 2014, 7:15 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
ah. Thanks. I have a nice 10 days off from school at the beginning of April.

Nice. That's a late spring break, though. By the way, what's been going on in the Mythron group? There's been a lot of activity there recently.
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| March 18, 2014, 9:27 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Nice. That's a late spring break, though. By the way, what's been going on in the Mythron group? There's been a lot of activity there recently.

Well, some of it is them saying I'm a spy and me defending it.

Edit: most of it
Edit #2: They are trying to get a spy in here, and they need to do a rank challenge, but they are all doing the MOCathalon.
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| March 19, 2014, 6:56 am
How do I declare the terrain of the battle between Shawn and I? I know I want it at the base of a mountain, and at the base, there is a swamp.
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| March 26, 2014, 3:06 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
How do I declare the terrain of the battle between Shawn and I? I know I want it at the base of a mountain, and at the base, there is a swamp.

When the time comes, you can put the announcement in their thread and our thread in the main group, and maybe the general conversation and the Attacking Cities thread as well. I'll notify the Outlaws in their own group. Are you sure that that is the terrain you want to fight on? Combining swamp and mountain will give Shawn the option to build either type of scenery without so much as inserting a pebble of rockwork.
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| March 26, 2014, 7:03 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
When the time comes, you can put the announcement in their thread and our thread in the main group, and maybe the general conversation and the Attacking Cities thread as well. I'll notify the Outlaws in their own group. Are you sure that that is the terrain you want to fight on? Combining swamp and mountain will give Shawn the option to build either type of scenery without so much as inserting a pebble of rockwork.

Hmm.

I don't have very many rock pieces, the stuff in my Guaire diamond build was about it. I need to include a swamp, because that is my best area. Can you help me out of this predicament?
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| March 26, 2014, 7:12 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
Hmm.

I don't have very many rock pieces, the stuff in my Guaire diamond build was about it. I need to include a swamp, because that is my best area. Can you help me out of this predicament?

I'll go take measure of Shawn's builds.
...
All right, this is what I saw. He has less rocks than you (discounting preformed wall elements) and what he has used is cruder. I would suggest a desert scene, but he has some dark tan plates that he could use for sand and I'm not sure if that's the best terrain to face him on. Maybe you could try a naval battle if you're feeling brave and hope he doesn't apply his cart techniques to his ships. You could call ruins (maybe in a swamp, a desert or on a mountain) as the scene of the fight, since you noted that his exteriors are not that good, but whatever you choose he can built after some fashion. Don't give him a chance to use trees, though, because he's comfortable with those.
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| March 26, 2014, 7:26 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
I'll go take measure of Shawn's builds.

Thanks so much! But I made a list of all that on Sunday, and posted it in the opposing builders thread. But if it helps you, please, look at his builds as long as you want.
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| March 26, 2014, 7:29 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens

Allright. I think I've got it. How about ruins atop a cliff/mountain, like that one scene in the Princess Bride. I think I could work some foliage in there too.

Edit: No ruins. just a mountain battle.
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| March 26, 2014, 7:45 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
Allright. I think I've got it. How about ruins atop a cliff/mountain, like that one scene in the Princess Bride. I think I could work some foliage in there too.

Edit: No ruins. just a mountain battle.

Whatever you think best - you know your skills better than I do. I'll show your royal endorsement in my next MOC as soon as I finish some suitably fancy rockwork on the top of my entry.
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| March 26, 2014, 8:24 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Whatever you think best - you know your skills better than I do. I'll show your royal endorsement in my next MOC as soon as I finish some suitably fancy rockwork on the top of my entry.

Sounds good.

I really like having my characters in your MOCs by the way. When I saw I was in your MOCiversery, my heart skipped a beat. It really encourages me.
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| March 26, 2014, 8:32 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
Sounds good.

I really like having my characters in your MOCs by the way. When I saw I was in your MOCiversery, my heart skipped a beat. It really encourages me.

Uh-oh, I don't want to cause any cardiac illness... but I'll risk it for the meeting with your Enalican. By the way, does he have a name or backstory, or can I make some up for him to fill text?
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| March 26, 2014, 8:35 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Uh-oh, I don't want to cause any cardiac illness... but I'll risk it for the meeting with your Enalican. By the way, does he have a name or backstory, or can I make some up for him to fill text?

I have not given him a name. Spine met him during the Tourney, and later bribed him to go to Rainos and tell the Dragon clan and anyone else he could get to come attack Elpis. He shipwrecked, but succeeded in telling the Dragon clan. This is where my story for him ends. Feel free to give him other stuff.

Oh, and I did say in one build he preferred to go unnamed, but you can override that if you want.
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| March 27, 2014, 6:43 am
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
Oh, and I did say in one build he preferred to go unnamed, but you can override that if you want.

Got it. "Welcome to Port Royal, Mr. Smith."
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| March 27, 2014, 7:38 am
I have decided to do a mountain battle. Could I include a bridge? I have a great design.
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| March 31, 2014, 6:58 am
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Quoting Asad Brunsting
I have decided to do a mountain battle. Could I include a bridge? I have a great design.

I bet you could work that in. Tomorrow's the day you declare the location - it's so exciting!
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| March 31, 2014, 7:54 am
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
I bet you could work that in. Tomorrow's the day you declare the location - it's so exciting!

Expect it at 6:40 AM MOCpages time.
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| March 31, 2014, 3:30 pm
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Quoting Asad Brunsting
Expect it at 6:40 AM MOCpages time.

Alright.
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| March 31, 2014, 3:33 pm
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There's this issue that Halhi calls "two-stud-wide-slope syndrome". Those 2x2x3s on their sides look a little plain - can you use foliage to break them up a little? Also, how many pieces do you have left? I think you need some more along the right edge to depict a road winding up the side of a mountain. Some 1x1 studs could work for a gravel cover to mix the dark- and light-grey plates, maybe. Could you find a non-Lego image to show us what this will look like? My Google image search for "mountain trail" gave me several different options.
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| April 3, 2014, 5:58 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
There's this issue that Halhi calls "two-stud-wide-slope syndrome". Those 2x2x3s on their sides look a little plain - can you use foliage to break them up a little? Also, how many pieces do you have left? I think you need some more along the right edge to depict a road winding up the side of a mountain. Some 1x1 studs could work for a gravel cover to mix the dark- and light-grey plates, maybe. Could you find a non-Lego image to show us what this will look like? My Google image search for "mountain trail" gave me several different options.

I have no rock pecies left, save BURPs. I could make more af a trail.
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| April 3, 2014, 6:02 pm
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Quoting Asad Brunsting
I have no rock pecies left, save BURPs. I could make more af a trail.

Maybe some dirt, plants and mid-sized trees can cover it. Looking at some images, most of them are more foresty than rocky. You could cut down on the size of the second platform, relocate some of the rocks to make the gorge deeper (with the advantages of accentuating the bridge and decreasing the need for detail elsewhere), and even Luke Watkins uses BURPs sometimes with enough other bricks to disguise them on top.
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| April 3, 2014, 7:31 pm
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Infernum might have some good advice. Where's he at...
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| April 3, 2014, 7:31 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Maybe some dirt, plants and mid-sized trees can cover it. Looking at some images, most of them are more foresty than rocky. You could cut down on the size of the second platform, relocate some of the rocks to make the gorge deeper (with the advantages of accentuating the bridge and decreasing the need for detail elsewhere), and even Luke Watkins uses BURPs sometimes with enough other bricks to disguise them on top.

I have a path and three pine trees now. Should I add a bit more vegetation?
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| April 3, 2014, 7:37 pm
I have an idea... my MOC is going to get a huge remodel.... Ill still have the rock arch though.
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| April 3, 2014, 7:44 pm
http://www.nhstateparks.org/explore/state-parks/flume-gorge.aspx

click on the photo gallery section. Then tell me weather or not you would consider it a mountianous terrain.
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| April 3, 2014, 7:52 pm
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Quoting Asad Brunsting
http://www.nhstateparks.org/explore/state-parks/flume-gorge.aspx

click on the photo gallery section. Then tell me weather or not you would consider it a mountianous terrain.

Yes, that looks not only like it should work, it also looks like it could blow the competition away if well-imitated.
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| April 3, 2014, 8:53 pm
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Um... Are you ever going to go back to Adam? I'd like to know in case people start getting confused when I refer to you.
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| April 3, 2014, 8:58 pm
Quoting Asad Brunsting
http://www.nhstateparks.org/explore/state-parks/flume-gorge.aspx

click on the photo gallery section. Then tell me weather or not you would consider it a mountianous terrain.

Huh, that could turn out great!
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| April 3, 2014, 9:14 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Um... Are you ever going to go back to Adam? I'd like to know in case people start getting confused when I refer to you.

Yup.
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| April 4, 2014, 6:05 am
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Yes, that looks not only like it should work, it also looks like it could blow the competition away if well-imitated.

Great! I visited it last year on vacation. Coolest nature hike ever.
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| April 4, 2014, 6:06 am
I have a fairly final MOC done. I'll take some crude pictures soon.
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| April 4, 2014, 9:02 am
Just to clarify, do I get two or three weeks to finish?
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| April 4, 2014, 9:14 am


The trees look great! Here's what I'd improve: The bridge, it needs handrails. Add some height to the beach, it looks odd at the same layer as the water. The water itself could use some cheese slopes or something so it isn't so flat. ;)

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| April 4, 2014, 10:22 am
Quoting Toa Infernum

The trees look great! Here's what I'd improve: The bridge, it needs handrails. Add some height to the beach, it looks odd at the same layer as the water. The water itself could use some cheese slopes or something so it isn't so flat. ;)

Thanks for the tips!
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| April 4, 2014, 10:33 am
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
Just to clarify, do I get two or three weeks to finish?

You and Shawn have to post on or before the twenty-first.
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| April 4, 2014, 10:38 am
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
You and Shawn have to post on or before the twenty-first.

Got it. I think I have a finished MOC, (now with more sand and handrails) so when should I post it?
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| April 4, 2014, 10:45 am
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In addition to what Infy said, could you mix up some of the ground cover on the larger side? The light grey looks strange to me - it would be better as dark grey or brown, in my opinion. A small rock or two in the stream would also reinforce the idea of a mountain.
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| April 4, 2014, 10:48 am
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Update on the Outlaws - no sign of Shawn. Presumably he's working independently...
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| April 4, 2014, 10:49 am
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Update on the Outlaws - no sign of Shawn. Presumably he's working independently...

Hmmmm.
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| April 4, 2014, 11:08 am
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
In addition to what Infy said, could you mix up some of the ground cover on the larger side? The light grey looks strange to me - it would be better as dark grey or brown, in my opinion. A small rock or two in the stream would also reinforce the idea of a mountain.

I might have some more dk. grey plates, but I might have to dig a bit. Were you thinking tan brown or the trail/normal brown?
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| April 5, 2014, 7:44 am
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
I might have some more dk. grey plates, but I might have to dig a bit. Were you thinking tan brown or the trail/normal brown?

I was thinking the same brown that you used on another part of the ground - the slightly-red, regular brown.
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| April 5, 2014, 6:44 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
I was thinking the same brown that you used on another part of the ground - the slightly-red, regular brown.

I just used dk. grey.
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| April 5, 2014, 6:57 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
I just used dk. grey.

OK
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| April 5, 2014, 7:01 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
OK

I also made the grass look better. By removing most of it.
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| April 5, 2014, 7:02 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
I also made the grass look better. By removing most of it.

Really? In the first two pictures of the last three, I thought the greens looked pretty good. Did you trim down some of the grass in the back with Zimmerale('s soldier)?
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| April 5, 2014, 7:08 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Really? In the first two pictures of the last three, I thought the greens looked pretty good. Did you trim down some of the grass in the back with Zimmerale('s soldier)?

Yes.
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| April 5, 2014, 7:49 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
Yes.

Great.! You've done all this and you still have sixteen days... what are you going to do with that time?
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| April 5, 2014, 8:37 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Great.! You've done all this and you still have sixteen days... what are you going to do with that time?

I don't know. My build is the best I can do, with the pieces I have.
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| April 6, 2014, 7:01 am
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
I don't know. My build is the best I can do, with the pieces I have.

Maybe you could set some easter eggs, scenes or decorations into the base. That could be worth another point or two from the judges.
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| April 6, 2014, 4:54 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Maybe you could set some easter eggs, scenes or decorations into the base. That could be worth another point or two from the judges.

Meh. I already took pictures, and I am really impatient. I am just going to post it.
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| April 6, 2014, 5:30 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
Meh. I already took pictures, and I am really impatient. I am just going to post it.

Maybe you should hold off on posting. If Shawn sees it, he'll know how hard he has to try to beat it.
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| April 6, 2014, 5:35 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Maybe you should hold off on posting. If Shawn sees it, he'll know how hard he has to try to beat it.

He should always try his best.
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| April 6, 2014, 5:43 pm
I'm one click away from posting...
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| April 6, 2014, 5:47 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
I'm one click away from posting...

Go ahead.
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| April 6, 2014, 7:28 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Go ahead.

Ehrm, I did, and Halhi commented that it was unwise to post early. And he said some things could use refining. I'm not sure what part. I took it down, but not before checking the rules about the MOC off. I did not see anything saying I couldn't take it down.
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| April 6, 2014, 7:46 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
Ehrm, I did, and Halhi commented that it was unwise to post early. And he said some things could use refining. I'm not sure what part. I took it down, but not before checking the rules about the MOC off. I did not see anything saying I couldn't take it down.

Oh, I see. Nice of Halhi to be helpful. Did you save some of the pictures from the final draft? We'll give you an intensive rundown and catch all of those parts to refine, if you like.
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| April 6, 2014, 9:21 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Oh, I see. Nice of Halhi to be helpful. Did you save some of the pictures from the final draft? We'll give you an intensive rundown and catch all of those parts to refine, if you like.

Yes, all are saved. How shall I post it? I have no other account on websites, save LEGO.com.
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| April 7, 2014, 6:35 am
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
Yes, all are saved. How shall I post it? I have no other account on websites, save LEGO.com.

Couldn't you do what you did with the other pictures when you put links in here?
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| April 7, 2014, 8:03 am
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Couldn't you do what you did with the other pictures when you put links in here?

Yup. What kinds of pictures do you want? Overall, close up, detail? I would guess over all.
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| April 7, 2014, 8:08 am
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
Yup. What kinds of pictures do you want? Overall, close up, detail? I would guess over all.

Probably some of each, really - anything you'll show in the final post.
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| April 7, 2014, 8:23 am
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Probably some of each, really - anything you'll show in the final post.

... *wastes an hour of his life posting links to 40 photos*
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| April 7, 2014, 9:52 am
Anyway, here go:
http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879409m

http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879412m

http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879416m

http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879419m

http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879422m

http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879426m

http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879430m

http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879433m

http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879436m

http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879440m

http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879444m

http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879447m

http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879451m

http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879458m

http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879462m

http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879466m

http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879469m

http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879473m

http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879477m

http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879481m

http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879484m

http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879488m

http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879492m

http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879496m

http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879499m

Catchy first picture: http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=367359&id=/user_images/104914/1396879503m
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| April 7, 2014, 10:28 am
I was wrong, only 27 pictures. And only 35 minutes.
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| April 7, 2014, 10:30 am
Quoting Adam Brunsting
I was wrong, only 27 pictures. And only 35 minutes.

I like the bridge and water more now! Not sure I like the use of palisade/log bricks for rocks though. The rock arch could use some bulking up on the skinny side, and I wish the rock in the river wasn't just flat on top.
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| April 7, 2014, 5:48 pm
Quoting Toa Infernum
I like the bridge and water more now! Not sure I like the use of palisade/log bricks for rocks though. The rock arch could use some bulking up on the skinny side, and I wish the rock in the river wasn't just flat on top.

I will get to work! Only thing, I don't have other pieces for the rocks.
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| April 7, 2014, 6:51 pm
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I'm only through the first three pictures, but this is what I have:
- Bring back some of the heavy vegetation. I think Halhi was referring to the grass stalks when he critiqued it; the rest of the former ground cover; the bushes and the three-leaf elements were fairly good at hiding studs.
- On the walls of the ravine, is there any way you can cover up some of the exposed studs or add some SNOT? A fallen soldier, a log or some other feature might help if you don't have the bricks for another method, and I think some of the dark grey cheese used on parts of the flat portion could be redistributed there.
- If you have a bunch of 1x1 cylinders, you could string them on the upper ropes of the bridge and make it look a bit more detailed. If you had some way to connect the guardrails to the planking, that would also be helpful.
- To the right of the end of the bridge nearest the arch, there's a flat stretch of grey with a few blades of grass on it. A small (4x4 or smaller) rock in the middle of that and maybe a smaller one on the corner of the cliff could add to the idea of a rugged mountain trail.
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| April 7, 2014, 7:16 pm
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Moving on, I would advise you to take pictures of the front side of the MOC and not the back one (i.e., the outside of the L rather than the bend). That will let you focus on appearances from only one angle.
- The sideways seaweed piece under the bridge on the small side would be better leaned up against the wall.
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| April 7, 2014, 7:21 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens

Thanks!
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| April 7, 2014, 7:22 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Moving on, I would advise you to take pictures of the front side of the MOC and not the back one (i.e., the outside of the L rather than the bend). That will let you focus on appearances from only one angle.
- The sideways seaweed piece under the bridge on the small side would be better leaned up against the wall.

Ok. I just got an ides for covering up some of the ravine.
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| April 7, 2014, 7:23 pm
I'm going to take pictures now, and post them later.
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| April 9, 2014, 8:23 am
If the above are alright, I would like to dismantle the MOC and start on my UC.
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| April 9, 2014, 9:09 am
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
If the above are alright, I would like to dismantle the MOC and start on my UC.

It's looking much better. The picture looking straight down the bridge is my favorite - the same view with a soldier running down it would make a beautiful main pic. If you could find a couple sheets of posterboard for a white background, that would help, too. My only suggestion to improve it is to take the tree closest to the arch two studs toward the long edge and four studs toward the bottom of the L to the edge of the tan area. That would thicken the vegetation slightly and open up a visible path along the dark grey.
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| April 9, 2014, 10:59 am
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It looks good to me. You have some story to accompany it, right?
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| April 10, 2014, 10:23 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
It looks good to me. You have some story to accompany it, right?

I'll think of one.

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| April 11, 2014, 6:41 am
Um, Mabye not. I don't know.

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| April 11, 2014, 6:56 am
were the pictures above good? I can't come up with a story, so I am going to post when you give me the all clear.

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| April 13, 2014, 12:51 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
were the pictures above good? I can't come up with a story, so I am going to post when you give me the all clear.

Speaking as a judge, a story - even if it isn't very complicated - makes a MOC seem better thought-out. You could do something like this, broken up with one or two lines per image:

On the Dragon Company's fast march to Elpis, only one obstacle remained in their way: a chain of mountains as many miles tall as they were wide.

There were many easier roads to the Outlaw city, but General Spine hoped that the peaks would make up for that with another advantage: the element of suprise.

On the last day of the march, Spine's vanguard arrived at a ravine and encountered a nasty surprise.

Across the stream, about three hundred Archons of the Roaring Lion were advancing up the path, no doubt hoping to cut the narrow bridge and stall the Dragons until reinforcements could arrive.

Without hesitation, Spine gave the order to charge - a loss now could mean certain defeat.

Then battle... details of slaughter... hammers versus swords... Gylfore leaping to the top of an arch... Spine being a beast... whatever else you want to put.
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| April 13, 2014, 1:55 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Speaking as a judge, a story - even if it isn't very complicated - makes a MOC seem better thought-out. You could do something like this, broken up with one or two lines per image:

On the Dragon Company's fast march to Elpis, only one obstacle remained in their way: a chain of mountains as many miles tall as they were wide.

There were many easier roads to the Outlaw city, but General Spine hoped that the peaks would make up for that with another advantage: the element of suprise.

On the last day of the march, Spine's vanguard arrived at a ravine and encountered a nasty surprise.

Across the stream, about three hundred Archons of the Roaring Lion were advancing up the path, no doubt hoping to cut the narrow bridge and stall the Dragons until reinforcements could arrive.

Without hesitation, Spine gave the order to charge - a loss now could mean certain defeat.

Then battle... details of slaughter... hammers versus swords... Gylfore leaping to the top of an arch... Spine being a beast... whatever else you want to put.

Spine is always a beast. Thanks for the advice!

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| April 13, 2014, 2:05 pm
A question, am I allowed to complete both a Black Lotus UC and a UC for Rainos?
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| April 13, 2014, 10:07 pm
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Quoting Rogue Commander
A question, am I allowed to complete both a Black Lotus UC and a UC for Rainos?

Only one will count for your UC, unless you can find a way to tie both together on a single page. You can still do as many missions for either side as you like, but they'll count as freebuilds.
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| April 13, 2014, 10:35 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Only one will count for your UC, unless you can find a way to tie both together on a single page. You can still do as many missions for either side as you like, but they'll count as freebuilds.

Alright. Is it okay if I enter a UC MOC for Rainos, but it includes my introduction/integration into the Black Lotus?
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| April 13, 2014, 10:40 pm
Quoting Rogue Commander
Alright. Is it okay if I enter a UC MOC for Rainos, but it includes my introduction/integration into the Black Lotus?

Yes, I think that would be OK.

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| April 14, 2014, 7:05 am
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Heads up - Shawn has dropped out of the running. He's taking a hiatus from MOCpages and will not be defending Elpis. Unfortunately, this means that Kai is stepping up to the plate, and he's well-equipped to build a mountain scene.
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| April 14, 2014, 8:07 am
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Heads up - Shawn has dropped out of the running. He's taking a hiatus from MOCpages and will not be defending Elpis. Unfortunately, this means that Kai is stepping up to the plate, and he's well-equipped to build a mountain scene.

... Cra*p.


In other news, my story is becoming more of a book.
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| April 14, 2014, 5:37 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
... Cra*p.


In other news, my story is becoming more of a book.

That's good. Don't worry about Kai - he doesn't have the best record of meeting deadlines, and your entry is very solid.
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| April 14, 2014, 5:39 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
That's good. Don't worry about Kai - he doesn't have the best record of meeting deadlines, and your entry is very solid.

It actually reminds me of a build Halhi might dish out.
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| April 14, 2014, 5:40 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Heads up - Shawn has dropped out of the running. He's taking a hiatus from MOCpages and will not be defending Elpis. Unfortunately, this means that Kai is stepping up to the plate, and he's well-equipped to build a mountain scene.

Hmm
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| April 14, 2014, 6:24 pm
Quoting Toa Infernum
Hmm

yeah.
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| April 14, 2014, 7:00 pm
Should I post when I finish taking pictures?
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| April 14, 2014, 7:01 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
Should I post when I finish taking pictures?

I'm not sure what effect that would have on Kai's building. If he knows what he's competing against, he might want to go the extra mile and do whatever he can to be sure of besting you... or he might see it and try to do the minimum amount of work he thinks necessary to top it, generating a less-impressive entry. Knowing Kai, it's probably safest to wait until the last minute and catch him by surprise.
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| April 14, 2014, 7:15 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
I'm not sure what effect that would have on Kai's building. If he knows what he's competing against, he might want to go the extra mile and do whatever he can to be sure of besting you... or he might see it and try to do the minimum amount of work he thinks necessary to top it, generating a less-impressive entry. Knowing Kai, it's probably safest to wait until the last minute and catch him by surprise.

Rats. I am itching to post!

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| April 14, 2014, 7:50 pm
Here is the story that will go along with the build:


Spine and his men had been trekking for hours. His men were tired, and spaced apart. This would not do for a siege on Elpis. His men needed a break. There was a ravine here. His men might be able to find water and get a bit of rest there.

Spine's hopes were dashed when he saw a whiff of red and black. A Lion of Elpis, no doubt. Spine's men wore red and blue. There was no mistaking that it was a Lion, as Spine's soldiers were anything but stealthy. Perhaps it was a Lion sentinel. Spine had a few Sentinels of his own, though.

Since his soldiers were not the most stealthy, Spine had chosen the more grueling route of the mountain pass. His soldiers might not be stealthy, but they were hardy. This ravine most likely marked the territory between Elpis, and other lands. The rock arch probably served as a good landmark for Lions of Elpis. Spine was unlucky today. A border, and a landmark. This would mean his army would be spotted easily. Better to deal with the Lions quickly.

For outlaws, the Roaring Lions sure dressed like red Mythronians. Also, some wore hats like those in the desert wear to keep away sand and silt. Spine guessed that those were the Sentinels he saw earlier. They were armed with a lethal looking scythe and a short sword, that looked like Elf craftsmanship. Foot soldiers, knights, (If outlaws even be called such a noble name), and the Sentinels. A small scouting party, Spine guessed. His men should be able to handle this scouting party well, but his men were tired. Spine was tired. The only one not tired was Gyllfore, but he never seemed to tire. It was probably his Rainosian assassin training kicking in. The lines had been drawn, and a battle was unavoidable.

Unbeknown to Spine, a druid stood among the Lions. A rather powerful druid, who had the energy to use even the most powerful spells...

There was no time to plan, but Spine could not lose. Failure here meant certain doom at Elpis. In fact, there might not even be a battle for Elpis. That unfriendly thought lingered in Spine's head for a long time. Spine might be unprepared, but he could think well under pressure. “Men!” Spine called, “ Once you cross that bridge, fan out! If you go single file, they can pick us off like flies!” A chorus of “Yes sir” and “Aye Gen'ral” could be heard many a yard away. The battle had begun.

Spine's back felt unusually warm. He looked behind him, and almost his entire army had come to a halt on the other side of the ravine. Only he, Gyllfore, his two Sentinels, and one foot soldier had made it across. The ropes holding the bridge in place had been burnt off by a druid, who was overlooking the entire battle, from atop the rock arch. This battle was not looking good. And that Druid must be taken care off. Spine called to Gyllfore, “Gyllfore, rid the earth of that Druid scum!”
Spine must not have been thinking straight, because if that druid just cast flames to strand our army on the other side of the ravine, he can most certainly protect himself,Thought Gyllfore, I'll just have to get creative.

Silver-steel against a magic rod. Gyllfore's chances did not seem good, but he was sure making a valiant stand against the Druid. With every burst of magic the Druid flung at Gyllfore, Gyllfore made a lightning fast move to dodge it. Then it clicked. Gyllfore must be wearing down the Druid. When his is worn down, Gyllfore will strike. It made perfect sense. Spine had faith in Gyllfore, and so Spine kept pushing forward.

Wave after wave of Lion Soldiers attacked and fell at Spine's feet. “How many more?” he wondered out loud. Then he saw it. The last wave of soldiers. The Druid was dead. Just a few more soldiers. Spine told himself.

Sentinel versus Sentinel, soldier versus soldier. However, these Lion Sentinels were proving to be a problem for the Dragon Sentinels. They were locked in combat for the longest time. Spine wished he could aid them, but he had problems of his own. The Lion ranks were thinning, and Spine noticed there were more Dragon soldiers were at his side, fighting. They must have climbed the ravine. The water wouldn't have been a problem, the bridge fell right into it, so they could just army-crawl across it.

Spine had felled the last Lion foot soldier. Now just to slay the Lion Sentinels, and the battle would be won!

Two on one, the Lion Sentinels fell quickly. The battle was won! Victory was ours! Now to just herd the entire army across the ravine...
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| April 15, 2014, 4:30 pm
Do I have permission to dismantle my MOC?
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| April 15, 2014, 4:41 pm
Quoting Adam Brunsting
Do I have permission to dismantle my MOC?

Ah, confound It all. I'm taking it apart.
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| April 15, 2014, 4:54 pm
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Quoting Adam Brunsting
Do I have permission to dismantle my MOC?

Yes
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| April 15, 2014, 5:06 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Yes

YAY!!!

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| April 15, 2014, 5:12 pm
Quoting Adam Brunsting
Do I have permission to dismantle my MOC?

Never! :P
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| April 15, 2014, 5:18 pm
Quoting Toa Infernum
Never! :P

D:

Too bad. I already finished.
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| April 15, 2014, 5:59 pm
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I need to declare the battleground today. Unfortunately, we've always known that Halhi can beat me at rockwork and landscaping - if I let him have access to that, as he would in a ruined town, then he has a strong chance of winning, especially now that he's practiced up on building buildings.

My previous plan called for a couple of falling-down houses, a pond, a crumbling wall and a brace of Technic functions. After experimenting with my green plates last month, unfortunately, I realize that I can't cover a full battlefield. Now I want to hold the fight on the high seas.

This plan had some nays before. To be honest, I haven't made a ship to be proud of yet, and I have tried multiple times. All the same, Halhi has been even worse - his TTR5 relied on his somewhat-shabby buildings on shore and still lost. I might not have a complicated schematic in my head for this plan, but I do have one or two ideas. What I ask from you is advice, ideas and/or approval before I go off and risk drowning.

P.S. - When we do get past the MOC-off, I would like to determine who goes on to the final battle based on the results of this month's UC.
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| May 1, 2014, 4:58 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
I need to declare the battleground today. Unfortunately, we've always known that Halhi can beat me at rockwork and landscaping - if I let him have access to that, as he would in a ruined town, then he has a strong chance of winning, especially now that he's practiced up on building buildings.

My previous plan called for a couple of falling-down houses, a pond, a crumbling wall and a brace of Technic functions. After experimenting with my green plates last month, unfortunately, I realize that I can't cover a full battlefield. Now I want to hold the fight on the high seas.

This plan had some nays before. To be honest, I haven't made a ship to be proud of yet, and I have tried multiple times. All the same, Halhi has been even worse - his TTR5 relied on his somewhat-shabby buildings on shore and still lost. I might not have a complicated schematic in my head for this plan, but I do have one or two ideas. What I ask from you is advice, ideas and/or approval before I go off and risk drowning.

P.S. - When we do get past the MOC-off, I would like to determine who goes on to the final battle based on the results of this month's UC.


Sea battle sounds good to me. I thought it was weird to see how plain his ship was in comparison to his buildings... Make a nice ship and I'd say you have him beat! :)
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| May 1, 2014, 6:23 pm
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Quoting Toa Infernum

Sea battle sounds good to me. I thought it was weird to see how plain his ship was in comparison to his buildings... Make a nice ship and I'd say you have him beat! :)

Let's hope he doesn't get crazily creative in the next three weeks. Now... how does one build a ship?
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| May 1, 2014, 7:30 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
I need to declare the battleground today. Unfortunately, we've always known that Halhi can beat me at rockwork and landscaping - if I let him have access to that, as he would in a ruined town, then he has a strong chance of winning, especially now that he's practiced up on building buildings.

My previous plan called for a couple of falling-down houses, a pond, a crumbling wall and a brace of Technic functions. After experimenting with my green plates last month, unfortunately, I realize that I can't cover a full battlefield. Now I want to hold the fight on the high seas.

This plan had some nays before. To be honest, I haven't made a ship to be proud of yet, and I have tried multiple times. All the same, Halhi has been even worse - his TTR5 relied on his somewhat-shabby buildings on shore and still lost. I might not have a complicated schematic in my head for this plan, but I do have one or two ideas. What I ask from you is advice, ideas and/or approval before I go off and risk drowning.

P.S. - When we do get past the MOC-off, I would like to determine who goes on to the final battle based on the results of this month's UC.

Hi, I'm back from camp. You have some good points, but I don't understand the P.S.
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