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Discuss rock techniques, and explain how to do them here. Definitely check out Halhi's rock work tutorial here http://www.mocpages.com/group_conversation.php?id=23775&topicid=95163
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| July 29, 2014, 9:52 pm
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Quoting Andrew Alexander.
I'm actually good at rock work... Not great but good.. ;)

What types of techniques do you use? I like mixing SNOT with studs-up.
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| July 29, 2014, 9:58 pm
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I really love building rocks for some reason:p
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| July 29, 2014, 10:40 pm
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HALHI! I need special tutoring!! I'm up against Kai, and our category is filled with rock work!!! please give me some tips!!!
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| July 31, 2014, 4:39 pm
Quoting Thomas B.
HALHI! I need special tutoring!! I'm up against Kai, and our category is filled with rock work!!! please give me some tips!!!

While you wait for Halhi, just look at his rockwork and try to replicate his style the best you can. That's how I learned and got so good. I just looked at other people's builds, tried my best to build it in those styles, and eventually, I had my own style.
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| July 31, 2014, 4:45 pm
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Quoting Stephen Boe
While you wait for Halhi, just look at his rockwork and try to replicate his style the best you can. That's how I learned and got so good. I just looked at other people's builds, tried my best to build it in those styles, and eventually, I had my own style.

I've been doing that...
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| July 31, 2014, 4:50 pm
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Quoting Thomas B.
HALHI! I need special tutoring!! I'm up against Kai, and our category is filled with rock work!!! please give me some tips!!!

Sorry, I'm not very good at giving advice on such matters without tutoring. Like Stephen said, look at others' work (I recommend David Hensel)


Oops - I should've realized that category had rockwork when Sarge posted it in the judges group. I forgot since I'm not all that familiar with LOTR :p
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| July 31, 2014, 5:27 pm
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Testing with panel rock work...it's not the best, but it's very good for starters...any critiques guys?

http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=393794&id=/user_images/108963/14068555051
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| July 31, 2014, 9:28 pm
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Quoting Thomas B.
Testing with panel rock work...it's not the best, but it's very good for starters...any critiques guys?

http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=393794&id=/user_images/108963/14068555051

Pretty good, but don't cover all the studs on the wedge plates or else the edge will be too regular (stepping down one stud at a time without variance). Also have maybe a few more studs showing. Overall it looks pretty nice though.
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| August 1, 2014, 7:34 pm
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Quoting Halhi 141
Pretty good, but don't cover all the studs on the wedge plates or else the edge will be too regular (stepping down one stud at a time without variance). Also have maybe a few more studs showing. Overall it looks pretty nice though.

Thanks, I've been practicing so I can do well vs Kai.
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| August 1, 2014, 7:36 pm
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Quoting Thomas B.
More rocks...
Some behind the scenes, is my technique for this right?

Those look quite good! As for the technique, it looks fine. There aren't really any right/wrong techniques, it's just what works. The way I do it is build the panels and put them (unattached) where they look good, and then figure out the attachment method. Ball joints can be used for weird angles.
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| August 2, 2014, 9:37 am
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Looks great. I use Bionicle ball joints (I might be going to the Lego store today, if I go I'm going to get the lion beast for the Mixels joints which are even better), but that's similar connections to what I used to do. Bionicle joints are best for large panels (so pretty much everything I do, since small panels are too piece-intensive and time-consuming for me)
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| August 2, 2014, 9:37 am
Wow Thomas B. That rockwork looks great, if I may ask what are you building?
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| August 2, 2014, 11:48 am
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Quoting Chris .
Wow Thomas B. That rockwork looks great, if I may ask what are you building?

Thanks! Nothing, it's just practice rock work for my match up with Kai Berstein in MEMO
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| August 2, 2014, 11:53 am

Your rockwork is looking great! I think it needs more studs, though.
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| August 2, 2014, 12:01 pm
What type of rockwork do you think would fit the Balrog scene in LOTR?
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| August 3, 2014, 5:32 pm
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Quoting Sean-Thomas Mahoney
What type of rockwork do you think would fit the Balrog scene in LOTR?

Probably SNOT...
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| August 3, 2014, 5:41 pm
My latest attempt at extreme SNOT rockwork. The texturing could be better, but I think the concept worked well-
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/396625
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| September 9, 2014, 12:08 pm
This is fairly simple, but it uses LURPs on their sides. It was suggested that I add cheese slopes, and while I agree it may have looked really cool, I don't have any in old dark gray (They did exist in the very last days of the color, but I think they cam only in a few if not one Creator set), and I'm not a fan of mixing old and bluish grays.

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/352228

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| September 9, 2014, 2:45 pm
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Quoting The Object of Legend
My latest attempt at extreme SNOT rockwork. The texturing could be better, but I think the concept worked well-
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/396625

That is impressive. The texture isn't too good (just studded plates isn't a good lock for rocks, I think), but those angles are seriously gnarly.
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| September 9, 2014, 4:13 pm
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I have some rock work coming that may be my best!
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| October 2, 2014, 5:10 pm
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Dang! Mixel joints are SUPER useful for panel rocks :D
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| October 7, 2014, 12:13 pm
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Quoting Thomas B.
Dang! Mixel joints are SUPER useful for panel rocks :D

Yep. I'm also planning on trying to use some trans-clear /trans-black 1x2 bricks (the ones with the open bottom that allows studs to slide into a large amount of positions) to get more exact offsets...
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| October 7, 2014, 6:04 pm
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Quoting Thomas B.
Dang! Mixel joints are SUPER useful for panel rocks :D

I tried, but not very hard, so my first attempt failed. :P It may be a while before I build rocks again, with the MO and all...
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| October 11, 2014, 1:36 am
Here is a creation of mine that shows the back of my most recent rockwork. http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/402361
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| December 13, 2014, 1:55 pm
what do you think of this rock work I made ? i know I have to progress so I want some tips and advices thank you

http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=390470&id=/user_images/85545/1402766268m
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| December 16, 2014, 1:55 pm
Quoting gaudel thomas
what do you think of this rock work I made ? i know I have to progress so I want some tips and advices thank you

http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=390470&id=/user_images/85545/1402766268m
That looks like fine rock work to me. You did a nice job there. :-)

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| December 16, 2014, 5:40 pm
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Quoting gaudel thomas
what do you think of this rock work I made ? i know I have to progress so I want some tips and advices thank you

http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=390470&id=/user_images/85545/1402766268m

Try not to have as many studs exposed.
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| December 16, 2014, 5:43 pm
I like to mix snot and exposed studs, I'm working on somehting and I wondered if I should do only SNOT or mix both ... maybe I can mix but just exposing less studs ?
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| December 17, 2014, 11:42 am
But I just realize that what I am doing is still much better now
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| December 17, 2014, 11:46 am
Quoting Timothy Post
Try not to have as many studs exposed.

That is not the right answer. The right answer is consistency. Either show a lot of studs or as little as possible, but either way it has to naturally make sense.

Studs often work as pebbles lying on larger rocks or as worn texture.
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| December 18, 2014, 8:40 am
Quoting Deus "Big D." Otiosus
That is not the right answer. The right answer is consistency. Either show a lot of studs or as little as possible, but either way it has to naturally make sense.

Studs often work as pebbles lying on larger rocks or as worn texture.

Could you give us an example?
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| January 3, 2015, 4:18 pm
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Quoting Mate Paton
Could you give us an example?

I'm not Deus, but: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/402932
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/395363
The rocks on both of these have lots of studs, and look just fine. I agree with Deus: consistency is the key.
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| January 3, 2015, 4:43 pm
Quoting Kevin Moyer
I'm not Deus, but: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/402932
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/395363
The rocks on both of these have lots of studs, and look just fine. I agree with Deus: consistency is the key.

Thanks, I need to practice that.
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| January 3, 2015, 4:52 pm
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/403870
Yes? No?
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| January 4, 2015, 5:53 pm
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Not bad! My advice would be to not use the 1x2 grill slopes or the 1x2 grill bricks. Yes, they add texture, but it's not a realistic texture for rocks. And I'm not totally convinced about the dk green cheese spotted all over the place. It just seems a little misplaced. I mean, would real life rocks have isolated chunks of moss like that? I dunno.
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| January 4, 2015, 7:14 pm
Quoting Kevin Moyer
Not bad! My advice would be to not use the 1x2 grill slopes or the 1x2 grill bricks. Yes, they add texture, but it's not a realistic texture for rocks. And I'm not totally convinced about the dk green cheese spotted all over the place. It just seems a little misplaced. I mean, would real life rocks have isolated chunks of moss like that? I dunno.

Wow, that helps a lot! Thanks!
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| January 4, 2015, 7:15 pm
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More studs showing or less? Which is better?
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| February 27, 2015, 10:50 pm
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Quoting Thomas .
More studs showing or less? Which is better?

It depends. I've seen some fantastic rockwork that has a lot of studs, but that's not very common. It seems to be hard to pull that look off consistently. Definitely don't do a mix of the two, that just wouldn't look good. And never, ever show any of those hollow studs. See this comment: http://www.mocpages.com/group_conversation.php?id=23775&topicid=#comment-1496018
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| February 28, 2015, 4:03 pm
B.U.M.P.
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| March 3, 2015, 7:09 am
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http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/415249

My latest work. I don't really use bley studs anymore. How's it look?
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| June 29, 2015, 10:23 am

I personally think it looks pretty good. Although I'd refrain from using the brown in there, or at least add a little more brown.
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| July 29, 2015, 3:20 am
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